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Portland trades CJ in the next calendar year

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mook

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McCollum and Lillard are the highest scoring back court in the NBA. They consider themselves the future at the position, and the perfect match for each other . They are best friends, great teammates, and perfect role models in the post-Jailblazer/post-prima-donna-Aldridge era. "This is going well so far," Lillard said, "and it's still developing." "When you have good cohesion and a feel for one another and develop a relationship outside of basketball, it makes it easier," McCollum said.

But the truth is the only reason CJ starts is because the Blazers are building his trade value. You can't have two guys that similar and that short as a starting back court on a contending-caliber team. Portland needs this feel-good story right now, so they are milking it. But CJ is too valuable to waste next to Lillard--the league is becoming run by these type of players, but only one per team. He's going to get traded, likely for a SF so that Aminu can slide to PF where he belongs. Probably over next summer, but maybe sooner.
 
Aminu isn't starter quality, so I really doubt they're trading CJ for a SF, so they can move a bench warmer over to the PF spot.
 
julius said:
Aminu isn't starter quality, so I really doubt they're trading CJ for a SF, so they can move a bench warmer over to the PF spot.
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ideally, he'd either be the starting defensive stopper on a team loaded with ball-handlers and scorers, or a bench player
 
This site needs another wanker.
 
julius said:
Aminu isn't starter quality, so I really doubt they're trading CJ for a SF, so they can move a bench warmer over to the PF spot.
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I agree Aminu is a backup on a good team. A very valuable defensive stopper backup, but a backup nonthenevertheless.
 
Also, if the Blazers are ever going to be a championship caliber team, they are going to need someone like CJ (and Aminu) coming off the bench. What we need is a bigger starting SG and a better starting SF. While keeping CJ and Aminu.
 
I don't know that they will trade CJ in the next year but I do agree they are too much of a duplication. At least one of them needs to be more of a defensive stopper and it would be nice if every night we weren't one of the smallest backcourts in the league. Of course they score a lot but they remind me WAY TOO MUCH of Curry and Ellis who used to put up a ton of points but couldn't stop or even slow down anyone else and all that scoring let to unbalance with the front court.

I really like a lot of what CJ brings but just don't think it is a great long-term fit here.
 
BBert said:
Also, if the Blazers are ever going to be a championship caliber team, they are going to need someone like CJ (and Aminu) coming off the bench. What we need is a bigger starting SG and a better starting SF. While keeping CJ and Aminu.
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How do y'all think the Blazers would look if they did nothing other than add DeRozan and Batum to the current team (next year)? I'm certain with that lineup there would be no more talk of lottery picks.
 
mook said:
McCollum and Lillard are the highest scoring back court in the NBA. They consider themselves the future at the position, and the perfect match for each other . They are best friends, great teammates, and perfect role models in the post-Jailblazer/post-prima-donna-Aldridge era. "This is going well so far," Lillard said, "and it's still developing." "When you have good cohesion and a feel for one another and develop a relationship outside of basketball, it makes it easier," McCollum said.

But the truth is the only reason CJ starts is because the Blazers are building his trade value. You can't have two guys that similar and that short as a starting back court on a contending-caliber team. Portland needs this feel-good story right now, so they are milking it. But CJ is too valuable to waste next to Lillard--the league is becoming run by these type of players, but only one per team. He's going to get traded, likely for a SF so that Aminu can slide to PF where he belongs. Probably over next summer, but maybe sooner.
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Did this come to you in a dream or something?
 
BBert said:
How do y'all think the Blazers would look if they did nothing other than add DeRozan and Batum to the current team (next year)? I'm certain with that lineup there would be no more talk of lottery picks.
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It would be a lot of talk of 1st and outs.
 
This season is about discovering which players fit with Dames talents. So far this season, the best fit is the Dame/CJ connection. And you want to trade CJ?

Unless a no-brainier deal falls into Neal’s lap, play out this hand for the remainder of the season.

Start building a team around Dame & CJ. Next off season, use the draft and cap space to fill in the many holes. Everyone is hot for a solid defensive big, rightfully so. But I would make the case that the need for a third G that better compliments Dame and CJ’s skills is just as important. We need a third guard that is more a PG than SG, but can also score when needed.

Never thought I would say this, but Jeremy Lin @ $2.1 million would have been a steal. He does the things that would allow Dame or CJ to get some rest without a decline in production. He would help to reduce the turnovers while making the other players on the floor more efficient, plus he can also score when needed.

The three guard rotation of Dame/CJ/Jeremy Lin would have been solid. They remind me of the Isaiah Thomas/Joe Dumars/Vinnie Johnson rotation except our rotation would be slightly taller.
 
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I voted no, but not because I'm against trading him. I just don't think Olshey trades him (yet). He's traded A LOT of Dame's friends, but none of them have been particularly good players. I have a hard time seeing Olshey trading another of Dame's best friends who is actually performing well.
 
BBert said:
How do y'all think the Blazers would look if they did nothing other than add DeRozan and Batum to the current team (next year)? I'm certain with that lineup there would be no more talk of lottery picks.
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I think they'd look remarkably similar to last year's team. Take that as you want.
 
BBert said:
How do y'all think the Blazers would look if they did nothing other than add DeRozan and Batum to the current team (next year)? I'm certain with that lineup there would be no more talk of lottery picks.
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blue9 said:
I think they'd look remarkably similar to last year's team. Take that as you want.
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Then sign Whiteside and we would be a contender
 
I would use CJ as the centerpiece of a trade for either a very good small forward or a very good power forward. I'm completely comfortable handing the starting spot to Crabbe. I think he's going to be a very solid player.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I would use CJ as the centerpiece of a trade for either a very good small forward or a very good power forward. I'm completely comfortable handing the starting spot to Crabbe. I think he's going to be a very solid player.
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I think I would hand the starting 2 to Crabbe anyway, and make CJ the first guy off the bench. Assuming Aminu is not the permanent SF starter, I could see an energy sub lineup of Aminu, Ed Davis, and CJ being pretty effective.
 
Heck, if Crabbe improves enough to start at SG,
HomerLovesKoolAid said:
I think I would hand the starting 2 to Crabbe anyway, and make CJ the first guy off the bench. Assuming Aminu is not the permanent SF starter, I could see an energy sub lineup of Aminu, Ed Davis, and CJ being pretty effective.
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I'm hoping Crabbe is good enough next season to do just that, and we can use our cap space/drafting/trading resources to upgrade other positions.
 
HomerLovesKoolAid said:
I think I would hand the starting 2 to Crabbe anyway, and make CJ the first guy off the bench. Assuming Aminu is not the permanent SF starter, I could see an energy sub lineup of Aminu, Ed Davis, and CJ being pretty effective.
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I would like to see Harkless and Crabbe get a few starts with Aminu, Davis, and CJ off the bench.
 
Trade CJ + Leonard + Plumlee or Davis for Boogie.

Sign DeRozan. If there's any money left over, go after Whiteside.

Draft BPA.

Dame/Frazier
DeRozan/Harkless
Crabbe/Aminu
Boogie/Vonleh
Whiteside/Davis (or Plumlee)
 
Derozan hasn't given any indication that he wants to leave Toronto, so I'm not sure why he's continually brought up.
 
julius said:
Derozan hasn't given any indication that he wants to leave Toronto, so I'm not sure why he's continually brought up.
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I not saying I think POR gets him (or even that he would be a top pick of mine) but TOR also has hinted they won't pay him max (which is what he is going to command, sadly - sad state of affairs the current NBA). Plus the tax situation in Canada is not all that advantageous to players. He is gone imo.
 
mook said:
But the truth is the only reason CJ starts is because the Blazers are building his trade value. You can't have two guys that similar and that short as a starting back court on a contending-caliber team.
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No, the reason he starts is because he's the 2nd best player on the team and because it's good to have another ball handler on the court with Damian as much as possible, since without a guy like Aldridge other teams can just focus on shutting him down.

Maybe he'd go to the bench when/if the blazers get a better starting five, but I don't think his trade value is the only reason he's starting.
 
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