Minnesota man killed in car during traffic violation for busted tail light.

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  1. bodyman5000 and 1

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    I have no idea what happened. I avoid cops like the plague. When I get pulled over, one hand on steering wheel one on door. No movement unless told to.

    Having been given a few well deserved tickets and one complete bullshit quota filler on the last night of the month, I don't much care for them. My wife's real dad is a wife beating, coke snorting Thom Petersen haircut sporting pig.

    Body cams that are always on (EVEN in the bathroom) should be a requirement.
     
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    When I go to the airport they can see my junk on the scanner so I done think a bodycam being on is so rough.
     
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    Philando Castile Had Been Stopped 52 Times By Police

    MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — When Philando Castile saw the flashing lights in his rearview mirror, it wasn’t unusual. He had been pulled over at least 52 times in recent years in and around the Twin Cities and given citations for minor offenses including speeding, driving without a muffler and not wearing a seat belt.


    He was assessed at least $6,588 in fines and fees, although more than half of the total 86 violations were dismissed, court records show.



    Was Castile an especially bad driver or just unlucky? Or was he targeted by officers who single out black motorists like him for such stops, as several of his family members have alleged?

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    Many charges were dismissed, but Castile pleaded guilty to some, mostly for driving after his license was revoked and driving with no proof of insurance. However, those two charges also were the most frequently dismissed, along with failing to wear a seat belt.

    The records show no convictions for more serious crimes.

    No recent information is available on the racial breakdown of drivers stopped or ticketed by police in Falcon Heights, the mostly white suburb where the shooting occurred, or in other Minnesota towns. Minnesota is not among the handful of states that require police to keep such data.

    But in 2001, the Legislature asked for a racial profiling study and it fell to Kearney, then at the Institute on Race & Poverty at the University of Minnesota Law School, to conduct it. His study, using information supplied voluntarily by 65 law enforcement jurisdictions in the state, found a strong likelihood that racial and ethnic bias played a role in traffic stop policies and practices. Overall, officers stopped minority drivers at greater rates than whites and searched them at greater rates, but found contraband in those searches at lower rates than whites.

    The analysis found the pattern was more pronounced in suburban areas. In Fridley, New Hope, Plymouth, Sauk Rapids and Savage combined, blacks were stopped about 310 percent more often than expected.

    http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2016/07/09/philando-stops/


     
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    I do it pretty much the same, got stopped for a bum taillight/turn signal last month. Both hands on the wheel, no movement and I don't speak except to respond. When I do move I tell them what I am going to do before I do it. I can tell my appearance affects the demeanor of the police. When I am working on the boat, dirty, ugly, grouchy looking., more fear. Not a time to move quickly.

    Ha! It is an entirely different deal when I get in court though. If I can, I will make the cop sorry as possible that they brought me to the event. But don't try that when your stopped.
    I got ticketed for no seat belt and no insurance, maybe three years ago. Had to go to court too, by state law. I had insurance, but no glasses so I could not read the documents in the truck's jock box, and the Cop would not help. I fixed the ass in court though.

    Part of the problems we have these days is the cops working to satisfy Federal Government enforcement agenda items where the police departments are paid based upon enforcement stops.
     
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    There is something off about the woman in the video....she seems very calm for having her boyfriend next to her covered in blood, just having been shot four times. She had time to open a Facebook live feed...how long does that take...as her boyfriend just got shot for trying to pull out his permit. she is also oddly detached from her daughter...the first thing a mother would do would be to check on her kid...also most people would be freaking out and or screaming...
     
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    Weird article. I don't have any problem with NRA not speaking about Philando Castile. I don't know enough to speak about the guy or what happen,
    I don't expect the NRA to know either. We shall see.
     
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    Yes sir. She sounds almost like a tour guide speaking to bus load of tourists. Something here we don't see.
     
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    Did anyone ever figure out what the objective is, of a demonstration in Dallas, about a guy dead by cop in Minnesota? No one in Texas has any control over police hiring, policy or tactics in Minnesota. No funding for the police in Minnesota is provided by anything or any person in Dallas
    So why does BLM hold a demonstration in Dallas over shit that went down in another state? I probably am not going to like the answer but if it is more than just ignorance, I would like to know. I can't think of a thing, except it was to stir up trouble where no trouble began. But why? No doubt the shooter knew and used the event to accomplish his goal. But why was it staged? For the Shooter?
     
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    #crickets

    So the usual suspects ignore this point and start critiquing the girlfriend of the victim. Ok.

    Ever interact with people in shock?

    Please, guys. These comments... It really is making you look... not so good.

    Acute stress reaction/ mental shock: numbing; emotional detachment; depersonalization (divorced of one's own physicality, emotions, feelings, etc), amongst other possible symptoms.

    And also, assuming what a mother will do in a situation like this is pointless and an uneducated guess.

    You know damn well you better be calm and not do anything sudden like reach in the backseat to console your child when a cop that just unloaded four shots into your boyfriend has his gun now trained on you! A lot of good being a protective mother is if you're dead.

    Honestly, some of the comments on this board are borderline...( fill in the blank)
     
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    It's the United States, so people care about what happens in other states. I understand the south wanted to leave the Union, but we are whole again.

    I know you are big on the importance of our constitution, so I know you are aware of the RIGHT, not privilege, to peacefully assemble. They felt the need to get together and have their grievances heard.

    Is the 2nd amendment the only thing you care about?

    Yes, snarky comments by me, but I am losing all patience with... Dammit!! I'm being trolled!!!!

    Well played, gentlemen. Well played!

    Shall we play a game of chess, anyone?

    :mook:
     
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    Well I will try to ignore the snarky because the question I ask was real and I would like an answer, if anyone has one. Sly threw out a similar snark to the same
    questions, but like you did not answer my questions.

    I assume that in ideal world, the result you expect from a protest is a change by the government that satisfies your grievance. If your stated grievance is with the cops in Minnesota, why not stage the protest in their yard? Their town? How can they possible expect the powers in charge of Texas to alter the actions of the cops in Minnesota?

    Now if the there is no expectation to motivate a change, wtf are they doing? They sure brought hell to some cops that did no wrong. So much for the peaceful.
    Or did they achieve what they wanted, dead cops! Any will do.


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    Ah! A partial answer.

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    The jackass leader Jeff Hood, is one of their own, from Texas, a Phd no less.

    Obviously out to raise mayhem, he has to know their was no chance of effecting change in Minnesota, Louisiana, what ever.

    Now, the next question. Do you let this loud mouth prick go out and whip up another crowd into a frenzies again? This is not a peaceful man, he took his style from Rev Wright and threw the teachings of Jesus in the trash can.

    http://revjeffhood.com/me/
     
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    I suspect Jeff Hood is guilty of Sedition. He was not acting like the leader of a peaceful protest, his rhetoric actions, grievances, and results all lead to Sedition.

    Three Presidents to my knowledge have used anti Sedition law in our history to put down disruption by sedition:
    John Adams
    Abraham Lincoln
    Woodrow Wilson

    I don't think they were all valid cases but if Barrack Obama were to go there today, I think it would be valid.
    But instead, he told NATO the problems was guns. I couldn't tell but I imagine that got some muffled chuckles.
    Probably a few, WTF! Why you telling us?
     
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    Just because you or I don't like their language gives us no right or power to stop a peaceful assembly.

    If you really are serious about an explanation without snarky remarks I can do my best.

    Let me know.
     
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    The language was seditious, the results were appalling. But I really asked what the expectation could possible been other than what we got?

    No Right or Power? Oh I think this particular little asshole would fold faced with very little power.
     
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    It's not just a Minnesota problem. BLM and general advocates for police reform want such conversations everywhere. Protests and demonstrations for a national issue make sense anywhere.
     
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    You still avoid answering anything. Cops are not national employees. What rational mind thinks they were airing their grievances to the proper authorities?
    The only result possible from their action was nothing or mayhem. We got mayhem. They achieved no fix for any grievance and had no chance to do so.

    That sir is stupidity in action, resulting in tragedy.
     
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    This is the Black Lives Matters website and what they are asking for in multiple cities in the Untied States.

    http://www.joincampaignzero.org/

    I have posted this multiple times. While I don't agree with all of it, it's well thought out and worth discussing.

    @MarAzul there is a answer to your question about why there was a protest in Dallas. It's not the only answer but it is one. Just like police departments adopt policing tactics from other departments around the nation, other communities are demanding at the very least discussions into police reform in their cites and towns.
     
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