Rumor Countdown to Thursday, June 22 - How this could play out

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by TBpup, Jun 18, 2017.

Moderators: 7
Page 2 of 3
  1. santeesioux

    santeesioux Just keep on scrolling by

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2008
    Messages:
    10,741
    Likes Received:
    5,319
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Trolling the internet
    Location:
    Southern Oregon
    Love wouldn't be that exciting, but if you can get him without giving up the 15th pick, you'd be set at PF and have a couple of assets to be set at SF.
     
    santeesioux, Jun 19, 2017
    #21
    rotary111 and riverman like this.
  2. 1eyejack

    1eyejack Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2013
    Messages:
    219
    Likes Received:
    137
    Trophy Points:
    43
    I'm probably in minority but I'd take Love if we can shed salary. Don't see how anyone can say it doesn't make us better and to me the way your going to beat Golden State is go old school, go big. Better than anything we'd get with a draft pick.
     
    1eyejack, Jun 19, 2017
    #22
  3. Scalma

    Scalma Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2014
    Messages:
    23,631
    Likes Received:
    34,981
    Trophy Points:
    113
    FUCK FACILITATING either get Paul George or tell them to get lost. Does Olshey work for the cavs? Sick of these favors.
     
    Scalma, Jun 19, 2017
    #23
    RipCityDSCPL likes this.
  4. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    92,932
    Likes Received:
    55,611
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Facilitating is what got us these picks in the first place. Neil gets involved and we end up getting money for nothing and chicks for free.

    We basically got Rolo for nothing because the Pelicans were trying to clear space to sign Tyreke Evans. Neil is great at lurking in the shadows and jumping in to pick up table scraps that end up being solid contributors for us.
     
    Natebishop3, Jun 19, 2017
    #24
    dviss1, rotary111, TBpup and 3 others like this.
  5. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    May 24, 2007
    Messages:
    72,977
    Likes Received:
    10,658
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Never lost a case
    Location:
    Boston Legal
    Denny Crane, Jun 19, 2017
    #25
  6. Scalma

    Scalma Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2014
    Messages:
    23,631
    Likes Received:
    34,981
    Trophy Points:
    113
    yes and we got Thomas Robinson when Houston was trying to clear space for Dwight. My point is, when is it our turn? Those scraps are ok and I appreciate a good deal, but when are we going to actually go for it?
     
    Scalma, Jun 19, 2017
    #26
    RipCityDSCPL, TBpup and Chris Craig like this.
  7. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    58,849
    Likes Received:
    59,107
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Its our turn when we decide it is. When we stop facilitating trades and throw down the gauntlet to get a big fish. The Blazers have to put their foot down, and put their balls in the fray. But, Neil unfortunately is a guy who facilitates trades and plays middle man in the hopes that he will build enough repertoire with other teams they will eventually trade directly with him down the road with the curried favor. This is false logic, its like that kid at recess who never gets picked until last and is ok with it. The Blazers are that kid, and they need to step up play a hell of a game come the draft so they are never picked last again.
     
    Chris Craig, Jun 19, 2017
    #27
    RipCityDSCPL and Dougnsalem like this.
  8. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    92,932
    Likes Received:
    55,611
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    I don't think that's it. I think that we haven't had much to play WITH. Unless you want to trade Dame or CJ, which I'm sure we could do quite easily, you're stuck trying to peddle guys like Harkless, Crabbe, Meyers, and Turner.

    Superstars aren't traded very often, and when they are, they're not usually traded for role players.
     
    Natebishop3, Jun 19, 2017
    #28
    dviss1, rotary111, Eastoff and 1 other person like this.
  9. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    58,849
    Likes Received:
    59,107
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I think is more likely we go big, then to trade up in the draft. I think Neil will try to go big and trade a pick or two for a player(s) and if it fails draft our picks. maybe buy a pick in the second round. I think we are going to see two or three of our guys headed out the door on Thursday. I just hope Meyers is one of them. Though for all the shit we talk of Meyers watch he has a career year next season. wait...(laughs hysterically)
     
    Chris Craig, Jun 19, 2017
    #29
    TBpup, riverman, Dougnsalem and 2 others like this.
  10. Scalma

    Scalma Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2014
    Messages:
    23,631
    Likes Received:
    34,981
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yeah I agree with this and the OP. Olshey will take a swing. Let's hope he connects boom home run grand salami.
     
    Scalma, Jun 19, 2017
    #30
    RipCityDSCPL likes this.
  11. glazeduck

    glazeduck Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2009
    Messages:
    1,107
    Likes Received:
    1,172
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Man, you guys are myopic! The reality is that we probably shouldn't even be in a position to "go all in"... You guys realize that we should have a core right now of Brandon Roy, Greg Oden and Lamarcus Aldridge, all in their primes right now, right??? Not only do we not, we got absolutely NOTHING for all of them. How many other franchises can say they lost their entire core and are still in playoff contention with enough flexibility and pieces to even have discussions around "when it's time to make their move"?

    Dame and CJ are young enough that we can -- and SHOULD -- be looking at a serious run in about 2 years, once GS and Cleveland start their fall from grace. Just my opinion, but I think any asset that's spent in trying to "have our turn" before those two start their descent is utterly wasted. I don't care how exciting Nurk's arrival was or what we do on Thursday, we're not going to be championship contenders while they're still firing on all cylinders.

    So yeah, if we can add another young talented piece (like what's being thrown around in the LA trade thread), then cool. If we have to facilitate to keep stacking assets for now, I think that's a prudent move too. We might only get a couple year window where a true run is a possibility here -- would you really prefer that we miss that window entirely because you were frustrated that it's not "our turn" yet???
     
    glazeduck, Jun 19, 2017
    #31
    Chris Craig, TBpup and illmatic99 like this.
  12. EGame

    EGame "You're the only one of these fools I trust"

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2009
    Messages:
    10,976
    Likes Received:
    3,630
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I fully believe we have the assets to trade for Paul George (mainly the 3 first round picks), but I'm sure the reason we aren't swinging for the fences as with most big time trades, George probably won't resign with us.
     
    EGame, Jun 19, 2017
    #32
    Chris Craig and 1eyejack like this.
  13. lawai'a

    lawai'a Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2013
    Messages:
    2,772
    Likes Received:
    2,838
    Trophy Points:
    113
    neil getting chris paul worked out after the league vetoed the gasol trade. even the three team la-Houston-NO trade would have only netted l. scola, kevin martin, lamar odom, goran dragic and a Houston via ny 1st rounder for new orleans. neil got him for Kaman, Gordon, aminu and minnisotas 2012 pick, he even got 2 2nd rounders from New Orleans.
     
    lawai'a, Jun 19, 2017
    #33
  14. riverman

    riverman Writing Team

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2013
    Messages:
    67,870
    Likes Received:
    66,636
    Trophy Points:
    113
    2nd rounder we paid 3 mil for in the past
     
    riverman, Jun 19, 2017
    #34
  15. Driew

    Driew Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    2,913
    Likes Received:
    3,049
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yeah I'm sure Neil is talking to PG13's agent and getting a very good idea if he'd even think about resigning with us haha
     
    Driew, Jun 19, 2017
    #35
  16. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    57,603
    Likes Received:
    56,038
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    NYstateofmind
    I think people are underrating Love. He was used horribly in CLE.
     
    illmatic99, Jun 19, 2017
    #36
    Pridan, dviss1, RR7 and 7 others like this.
  17. 1eyejack

    1eyejack Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2013
    Messages:
    219
    Likes Received:
    137
    Trophy Points:
    43

    I agree listen we most likely aren't getting George he doesn't want to come to Portland so get into the trade and gain an asset. I'm not a big Love fan but adding him definitely makes us better and that much closer. Draft picks are huge risk especially the lower you go so yes if we can get in on trade then do it.
     
    1eyejack, Jun 19, 2017
    #37
    Eastoff likes this.
  18. Binx

    Binx Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2015
    Messages:
    596
    Likes Received:
    771
    Trophy Points:
    93
    I don't care what happens as long as we ship Leonard out of town. If that happens, it's a successful draft.
     
    Binx, Jun 19, 2017
    #38
    dviss1, Dougnsalem and Chris Craig like this.
  19. TBpup

    TBpup Writing Team

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2013
    Messages:
    22,586
    Likes Received:
    34,467
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Investment Management / Financial Planner
    Location:
    Lake Oswego

    IT'S MY TURN WHEN I SAY IT IS!!

    [​IMG]

    @glazeduck ....more reasoned brilliance.
     
    TBpup, Jun 19, 2017
    #39
  20. RR7

    RR7 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2008
    Messages:
    18,412
    Likes Received:
    12,573
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I just think the passing out of a love -nurk frontcourt would be amazing. I know he doesn't fix this, that, or the other, but I'd happily take him
     
    RR7, Jun 19, 2017
    #40
Page 2 of 3

Share This Page