"Kyrie is Dame Lillard, scoring a bunch of points doing nothing."

Dame is looked at in this light from the msm for one reason: his teams have been extremely mediocre. Even when they made the playoffs, those Blazer teams were far from a conference power.

This falls on Neil IMO. It comes down to roster talent.

 

I started watching the NBA more than just casually around '83-84. By then, Kareem was approaching role player status. Put any journeyman 7'er in there in his place and I don't think that team misses a beat.

 

That's just what I mean. You and millions of others perceived him that way because the media portrayed him that way.

When he retired in 1989, the Lakers lost their mustard. All Magic style and no depth. I lived there in 1989-91 and watched every game on local TV.

Losing the things that great centers used to contribute are what shallows the modern game. Also, Europeanizing the screens, etc.

 

Yeah, the media considered Worthy twice as good as Lillard. Throwing shade at Lillard even before he was born. That's bias!

 

Also, Worthy was a tremendous player. A bit overrated as a lot of non-primary stars on historic juggernauts are (pretty much every Celtic from Bill Russell's teams was put into the Hall of Fame) but he would have been a star on any team. He was perfect for the fast pace of Showtime, though.

 

The tale of the point guards.
Per game
Damian

Points 22.7. Assists 6.2 TO 2.1

Kyrie

Points 22.0 Assists 5.5 TO 2.7

Chris Paul

Points 18.7 Assists 9.9 TO 2.4

Now add one more piece of metadata, the A/M (assists/shots missed. Otherwise known as, does he pass the fucking ball?)

Chris Paul

Points 18.7 Assists 9.9 TO 2.4 A/M 1.34 <--- very good

Damian

Points 22.7. Assists 6.2 TO 2.1 A/M .62 <--- meh!

Kyrie

Points 22.0 Assists 5.5 TO 2.7 A/M .58 <--- ugly!

Now a great one, not the best of all time but outstanding

Magic Johnson

Points 19.5 assist 11.2 TO 3.9 A/M 1.77 <--- Wow!

KingSpeed put his finger on it!

 

Yes, interesting. Damian has learned to play pick and roll well with ? on the team?
In fact, I can not identify a play where the first option is for Damian to get an assist. Same with Kyrie.

The assist they get are most often from passing when stopped in plan A.


Thus the Savvy coach will plan the defense to take away the most used bail out and press the ball handler into making a difficult plan A.

Every year we see this in action as the competition stiffens until we are eliminated. It only takes a few possessions moved to the miss column to make a ball game. Simply by playing the tendencies.

 

Curry is even better with A/M than Kyrie or Damian @ .77. While only a bit better in dishing out assist at 6.8 a game.

He just misses less, even with the green light from anywhere. His shot volume brings his A/M down even though shooting .591 over all and .437 three ball. But he does run enough plays to make the defense think about it. Watched him last night run two nice pick n roll plays.
(forced to succumb to it tied up here with the Santa Ana's whining in the rigging)

 

You're trolling right ?

 

Name?

 

That is the same name I come up with.

 

Omg here we go...

 

Just being of assistance as to why this thread got started. I didn't start it.

 

Tim Frazier had 14 assists last night but he's not a better pt guard than any of the above mentioned...his team shot a high percentage...that's the key to assist numbers....team FG%

 

Your eyes are not passing the test or you are not able watch be games then.

Many games now dame has come right out and made an obvious poin to get nurk the ball on a pick n roll
The problem with assists is nurk has to make the shot for the assist to be credited.

 

So it's not working all that well then.

 

Not otvthe fault of dame though...
You are trolling now....have a good day.

 

Im talking about your imaginary stat.

 

To be fair, every stat is imaginary until someone comes up with it. There was no PER 15-20 years ago. Now if you mean worthless stat then you might just be on to something.