Too 5 NBA Players All Time= Wilt, Shaq, Jordan, Magic, and Duncan

That does not "by definition" put him on the list of all time NBA greats (depends on how long your list is). There is no NBA Hall of Fame. It's the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame. Walton made the hall based on his combined college and pro careers. If it was just based on NBA accomplishments, he would not have made it due to the shortness of his career. If anything, he accomplished more in college than the pros. It is the strength of his college career, combined with a very brief, but outstanding pro career that got him into the Hall of Fame.

BNM

 

Hehehe - that's what I was thinking when I saw those bolded names too. Funny that those names made the cut, but Dale Davis didn't?

 

And if those were the BEST opponents Shaq faced in his prime (BTW, Morning was done the next year with his kidney ailment), what's that say about the other 23 centers Shaq faced on a nightly basis?

BNM

 

Yeah, he's certainly the best of those three. But c'mon - he's not great by any stretch of the imagination. He's a better version of Joel P.
And Mark Madsen is a champion! Good thing Shaq played WITH him rather than against him.

 

Good. So we are clear. YOU are the one who needs to learn the game before posting. Head to YouTube and get back to me. There are full games of Wilt on there.

 

Poor Shaq carried a 70-pound backback full of fat, so his effectiveness was way below his potential. Jabbar had all the raw talent of Chamberlain, but Wooden taught him a controlled, thoughtful style which made him 10 times the defender than he was offender, 36 ppg notwithstanding. Walton was more conventional than Jabbar in that he devoted less energy to scoring which made him the most powerful center defender ever, while tying Jabbar and Russell for most cerebral center defender ever.

Ignoring longevity, they rank Walton, Jabbar, Chamberlain. Shaq's not in that class.

 

Shaq was not a good basketball player, he was very big and strong, and was allowed to muscle guys in ways that would usually draw an offensive foul. Duncan is also good, but would not put him in the top 5. You can make as strong an argument for magic jordan and wilt as any other player at their position, but Larry Bird has to be up there too.

 

Yes, Bird. I'd replace Magic with Bird. The defensive engine of the 80s Lakers was Jabbar. Magic was just showtime icing on the cake.

 

Shaq had the worst work ethic I've seen in a big. If he just worked the offseason like most nba players; he could of been the best player ever!

Instead he just had his summer vacations of gaining weight and enjoying life; then used the first part of the seasons to rehab from injury.

 

We can hate if shaq all we want; but te dude played against some of the best in the league.

Wilt only had to worry about Russell and it seemed he got the better if him on most occasions. In Wilts day; the league didn't have too many dominant bigs.

Also; shaq had tons of offensive fouls called on him; while I watched players hang on his arms in feeble attempts to stop him. He was fouled almost every time he touched the ball.

I will admit that I watched Kareem a lot since I lived in Los Angeles from 86. He was definitely dominant; but in a finesse way. Shaq was pure in your face; duck for cover center. He was a fucking beast!

I admit I absolutely hated him as a player. He talked the most trash and thought he was Gods gift to the nba. But I can't discount his dominance!

 

Your last 2 posts disagree with each other. You do that a lot. The Jabbar you saw was in his late 30s. He was unstoppable as a young Buck.

As for Wilt's opponents, I quickly thought of Thurmond (defense) and Bellamy (offense) so I ran this. There were more good 60s centers than you realize.

http://bkref.com/tiny/nSnan

 

Height was measured barefoot then. Now it's in shoes. As for Russell, greatness is greatness across the ages. No one can explain Tim Duncan, either.

 

Dang wilt had some hops!