Notice Should the Portland Trail Blazers trade for Tyreke Evans?

BigGameDamian · Jan 30, 2018

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Should the Portland Trail Blazers try to swing a deal for Memphis Grizzlies guard Tyreke Evans?

If the Portland Trail Blazers really are buyers ahead of the Feb. 8 NBA trade deadline, should they take a look at Memphis Grizzlies guard Tyreke Evans?

Evans, 28, is having a great season, with career-high averages of 19.4 points, 5.1 rebounds, 5 assists and a steal per game.

He's on a $3.3 million, one-season deal with Memphis, which is mired in mediocrity and looking to make changes.

ESPN's Brian Windhorst already has said Evans "definitely gets traded."

"Tyreke Evans definitely gets traded, even if it's for a second-round pick," said Windhorst in an episode of The HoopsHype Podcast with Alex Kennedy. "Memphis probably holds out until the very end, to make sure that somebody isn't ready to offer [something more]."
From The Ringer's Kevin O'Connor:

The Grizzlies want a first-round pick for Evans, who is averaging 19.4 points in his healthiest season in three years. Evans would be a wonderful addition to any team that needs a spark-plug scorer who can also shoulder playmaking responsibilities--a team like the Sixers, Pelicans, or Celtics. The asking price might be a bit steep for most teams; Evans is an expiring contract, which would make surrendering a first-rounder a tough pill to swallow.
To be fair, every team wants a first-round pick in a deal. And while we won't know until around March where the Blazers will land, based on right now, Portland's first-round pick would be somewhere from 13th to 20th.

So, what do you think? Should the Trail Blazers try to make a deal for Evans?

Mr. Robot · Jan 30, 2018

YES! is it done yet

BigGameDamian · Jan 30, 2018

Mr. Robot said:
YES! is it done yet

Neil needs to wake up first.

Pinwheel1 · Jan 30, 2018

Regardless we would not have his bird rights after this season..correct? So sure I would trade someone like Noah for him....if they have no intentions of keeping Noah. But not our 1st

Mr. Robot · Jan 30, 2018

Im not sure Id give 1st round pick for him, although, if we want to "win now", we need ready players, not drafted ones... so whether its Tyreke Evans or somebody else, that 1st round pick is likely to be gone

Mr. Robot · Jan 30, 2018

BigGameDamian said:
Neil needs to wake up first.

get me Paul Allen on the line

PtldPlatypus · Jan 30, 2018

BigGameDamian said:
Neil needs to wake up first.

What do you think the Blazers should be offering for a guy they won't be able to re-sign?

Pinwheel1 said:
Regardless we would not have his bird rights after this season..correct? So sure I would trade someone like Noah for him....if they have no intentions of keep Noah. But not our 1st

My thoughts exactly.

Scalma · Jan 30, 2018

PtldPlatypus said:
What do you think the Blazers should be offering for a guy they won't be able to re-sign?

My thought's exactly.

Hopefully nothing.

PtldPlatypus · Jan 30, 2018

Scalma said:
Hopefully nothing.

Vonleh would be fair. I don't see us keeping him beyond this year. His RFA status makes him worth more to the Grizz than Evans is.

Mr. Robot · Jan 30, 2018

PtldPlatypus said:
What do you think the Blazers should be offering for a guy they won't be able to re-sign?

uhm, youre speaking about...

e_blazer · Jan 30, 2018

If you have to give up a first round pick for a rental on Evans, count me out. The salary cap value of rookies on their first contract is critical these days to avoid luxury tax penalties.

PtldPlatypus · Jan 30, 2018

Mr. Robot said:
uhm, youre speaking about...

Tyreke Evans. Because he's on a 1-year deal, the Blazers won't have his bird rights this summer. Meaning that if they want to keep him, they'll have no more than the taxpayer MLE, or about 5.5M to offer him. He'll almost undoubtedly command more than that, meaning that even if they trade for him now, there is virtually zero chance of Portland keeping him beyond this summer.

illmatic99 · Jan 30, 2018

His shot is so improved. He'll get 8 figures easily in the open market as a FA, so in essence, he'll prolly be a rental.

No way I give up a pick for that, especially if I don't unload some contracts in the process.

Mr. Robot · Jan 30, 2018

PtldPlatypus said:
Tyreke Evans. Because he's on a 1-year deal, the Blazers won't have his bird rights this summer. Meaning that if they want to keep him, they'll have no more than the taxpayer MLE, or about 5.5M to offer him. He'll almost undoubtedly command more than that, meaning that even if they trade for him now, there is virtually zero chance of Portland keeping him beyond this summer.

then no

Scalma · Jan 30, 2018

PtldPlatypus said:
Vonleh would be fair. I don't see us keeping him beyond this year. His RFA status makes him worth more to the Grizz than Evans is.

Yeah but we wouldn’t be able to keep Evans either. Vonleh is worth more to me than a 30 game rental or whatever.

Chris Craig · Jan 30, 2018

Get it done Neil, trade one of the end benchers for him...or the trade exception

Scalma · Jan 30, 2018

Chris Craig said:
TPE

I’d rather hold onto that and use it before free agency.

Denny Crane · Jan 30, 2018

I see no real trade possible without adding a bunch of players on both sides.

FWIW.

Neither team has cap space so the deal has to be balanced. Evans's one year deal is just ~$3M, so we'd have to do something like Vonleh for him. I wouldn't do that if I were Memphis.

EDIT: the TPE would work, and it can be split. There is a decent opportunity here after all, especially if we're willing to facilitate the deal by taking some salary dump.

Re-signing him would be the key consideration if we give up much more than the TPE though.

BrianFromWA · Jan 30, 2018

Seems easy. they take the tpe and a future 2nd or 2 and some cold, hard cash. Or they take Noah. Or they see who will give them a 1st

KingSpeed · Jan 30, 2018

I would love Evans on our team. Is there absolutely no way at all that we could move money and players around to re-sign him?

Denny Crane · Jan 30, 2018

He's a weird kind of player. He's a PG/SG/SF. He made a big splash as a rookie at PG. His outside shooting was suspect for most of his early career, but he was very effective at getting his shots at close enough range. As a PG, he's HUGE (size). He's got the skills to play it well enough.

With NO, he was a SF.

If Neil wants to swing for the fences, a trade for Evans and for Mirotic would give us a starting lineup of:

Dame/CJ at guard
Nurk
Evans/Mirotic at forward

and a bench of Davis, Aminu, ET, Napier, Collins, etc.

Solid 1-5 plus a decent looking bench. Competitive? Not sure, but much better than our current chances as far as I can see.

Denny Crane · Jan 30, 2018

KingSpeed said:
I would love Evans on our team. Is there absolutely no way at all that we could move money and players around to re-sign him?

We could use our $12.5M TPE on him. The TPE can be split so we'd sill have $9M of TPE left. We would have to make roster space.

tester551 · Jan 30, 2018

Denny Crane said:
We could use our $12.5M TPE on him. The TPE can be split so we'd sill have $9M of TPE left. We would have to make roster space.

The TPE can't be used to re-sign him though.

Without some major roster shake-up and renouncing players, Portland would only have the Tax MLE (~$5M +/-) to be able to sign him. My guess is he will get larger offers.

Denny Crane · Jan 30, 2018

tester551 said:
The TPE can't be used to re-sign him though.

Without some major roster shake-up and renouncing players, Portland would only have the Tax MLE (~$5M +/-) to be able to sign him. My guess is he will get larger offers.

No, it cannot be used to re-sign him. It's just a way to swing for the fences THIS season.

He did sign for less than the Tax MLE this season.

South East · Jan 30, 2018

What about a simple swap based on Napier for Evans. Gives Portland another guy who can create and score. He can be used in a 3 guard lineup.

For Memphis with Conley out they need a PG and they can see if Napier is a long term fit for them as either a backup or, if they decide to trade Conley, a starter.

Napier and Layman for Evans works. Could even include laker/minn 2nd.

Denny Crane · Jan 30, 2018

South East said:
What about a simple swap based on Napier for Evans. Gives Portland another guy who can create and score. He can be used in a 3 guard lineup.

For Memphis with Conley out they need a PG and they can see if Napier is a long term fit for them as either a backup or, if they decide to trade Conley, a starter.

Napier and Layman for Evans works. Could even include laker/minn 2nd.

Evans is Memphis' PG with Conley out.

Boob-No-More · Jan 30, 2018

KingSpeed said:
I would love Evans on our team. Is there absolutely no way at all that we could move money and players around to re-sign him?

Of course we could, but we could do that whether we trade for him now, or not. It wouldn't be easy, but if we could get under the luxury tax threshold, we'd have the full MLE of $8.826 million to offer him. Of course, so would a lot of other teams.

Whether, or not, we can resign him I'd offer a chunk of our TPE + a second rounder for him just to see what this team would look like with a versatile 6'6" shooting guard playing next to Dame and/or a 6'6" small forward/legitimate 3rd option playing next to Dame + C.J. Even if we can't resign Evans come summer, it may shed some more light on whole can Dame and C.J. coexist debate. As in, which would be better: trade C.J. for a bigger guard, or try to move other pieces for a legitimate 3rd option at SF.

BNM

Denny Crane · Jan 30, 2018

Boob-No-More said:
Of course we could, but we could do that whether we trade for him now, or not. It wouldn't be easy, but if we could get under the luxury tax threshold, we'd have the full MLE of $8.826 million to offer him. Of course, so would a lot of other teams.

Whether, or not, we can resign him I'd offer a chunk of our TPE + a second rounder for him just to see what this team would look like with a versatile 6'6" shooting guard playing next to Dame and/or a 6'6" small forward/legitimate 3rd option playing next to Dame + C.J. Even if we can't resign Evans come summer, it may shed some more light on whole can Dame and C.J. coexist debate. As in, which would be better: trade C.J. for a bigger guard, or try to move other pieces for a legitimate 3rd option at SF.

BNM

Moving CJ's salary is one way to possibly free up a good chunk of cap space. Depending on how much we take back.

Boob-No-More · Jan 30, 2018

Denny Crane said:
Moving CJ's salary is one way to possibly free up a good chunk of cap space. Depending on how much we take back.

Which is why it might be nice to audition Evans for 30 games, to see if he's a viable C.J. replacement/improvement.

BNM

rotary111 · Jan 30, 2018

I would try and work Bazz and Dillon Brooks in the deal. Adding Biggie would give them something to rebuild with.

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