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https://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/...ers-to-try-to-take-anthony-davis-hostage.html

I woke up Monday, heard the news, and wished Bob Whitsitt was still around.

Maybe you did, too.

Anthony Davis will not re-sign with New Orleans when his contract runs out in summer 2020. His agent informed the Pelicans on Monday. Davis would like to be traded to a franchise that gives him a chance to win consistently and chase an NBA championship.

“Trader Bob” would already have been busy plotting how to take Davis hostage via trade for the next 18 months, then convince him that Portland was both of those things. But he’s not. So Portland is about to watch another opportunist NBA franchise do what the Thunder did with Paul George and what the Raptors are doing with Kawhi Leonard.

Look around downtown Portland and what do you see? Cranes everywhere. They’re building toward the clouds. The developers aren’t making small plans. They’re taking acceptable risks and changing the landscape of the city.

General Manager Neil Olshey won’t get this done.

To be fair, I suppose it would be easier to write a column about all the reasons why Davis won’t be traded to the Blazers. At face value, he’s unlikely to re-sign in Portland in summer 2020. The Celtics want him badly. The Lakers covet him, and Davis and LeBron James share an agent.

There’s ownership uncertainty in Portland after Paul Allen’s death. I’m not sure the suits at the Vulcan mothership would be receptive to a massive roster shift given that they’re plotting the eventual sale of the franchise. Also, the Pelicans swept the Blazers in the first round of the NBA Playoffs a year ago.

But that’s where you need visionary leadership to disrupt the league’s narrative. It’s where you need a basketball operations side that believes so deeply in where it’s headed that it’s willing to take a massive risk, re-direct the course of franchise history, and go all-in trying to land a player that could change everything.

By all accounts, guard Damian Lillard is happy in Portland. His contract runs out in the summer of 2021. And while he’s made no public comment that would suggest he’s thinking about playing elsewhere, chasing Davis hard into the Feb. 7 trade deadline would send a strong message to Lillard that he’s in the right uniform.

I spoke to Whitsitt a few months ago.

When I suggested that it was difficult for Portland to land free agents as a small market, he waved it off as a small-minded excuse. Whitsitt took hostages via trade, then re-signed them. He made 19 trades in nine seasons in Portland. His teams went 426-280 (.603) and made the playoffs every year.

“I was told you couldn’t do it when I went down there," Whitsitt said. "We did it... everybody likes to have excuses. It’s a tough business. There aren’t excuses.

"The job is to get the job done. The job is to build a really good team, and that should also be the fun. To do that you’re going to have to take some chances, take some risks, and you’re going to have some thick skin.”

Olshey has made 24 trades since he was hired in the summer of 2012. Nine of them involved “cash” and they’ve hardly been the shape-shifting moves that marked the Whitsitt era. It’s why nobody ever called him: “Trader Neil."

Whitsitt wasn’t interested in saving cash and pleasing the analysts at Vulcan.

He tolerated the suits while trying to win a title.

Traded for Rasheed Wallace. Traded for Gary Trent. Traded for Scottie Pippen and Damon Stoudamire.

“Cash considerations” couldn’t guard those guys.

Davis makes roughly the same salary as Blazers guard CJ McCollum. You’d do that deal in a heartbeat. But the Pelicans wouldn’t. They’d be starting over and want a pile of assets to replace a generational star in Davis. Portland will have to be willing to risk future draft picks and promising young players such as Zach Collins, and it would have to take on New Orleans' worst contracts.

Basically, Olshey would have to be willing to risk his job security to get it done. And that’s where it totally falls apart, really. Because right now, the uncertainty hanging over franchise ownership is a ticking clock for the GM. He’s busy networking and auditioning for his next job.

It’s why the Blazers media relations staff put a note about Olshey in the game notes recently. It was greeted by media and a few other league executives who saw it with snickers. Mostly because, who does that? It noted that Olshey had 299 victories as a GM and was “the third executive to count 300 victories at the helm of the Trail Blazers.”

Cool.

The usher in Section 101 has 655 wins.

Look, I’m not sure Whitsitt would have pulled it off.

Landing a star of Davis' caliber is a high-wire act.

But man, it would have been fun to watch him try.
 
“I was told you couldn’t do it when I went down there," Whitsitt said. "We did it... everybody likes to have excuses. It’s a tough business. There aren’t excuses.

"The job is to get the job done. The job is to build a really good team, and that should also be the fun. To do that you’re going to have to take some chances, take some risks, and you’re going to have some thick skin.”
Agreed.
/thread.
 
To be fair Whitsitt never came close to signing a superstar in their prime... His best signings were if I remember correctly Kenny Anderson, Old Scottie, and Brian Grant.
 
To be fair Whitsitt never came close to signing a superstar in their prime... His best signings were if I remember correctly Kenny Anderson, Old Scottie, and Brian Grant.
He also was given unlimited money to do whatever he wanted by an owner desperate to win and an NBA that had basically no salary cap. I can't stand articles like this or posts on here that think he'd be good with today's rules.
 
Hello all been awhile since i posted here --- To be fair big name free agents in the time Trader bob was around was super rare compared to today. Back then if you wanted a true star he had to be unhappy where he was or something ala Barkley and asked to be traded. This is one of the 1st if not the 1st article from Clownazo i really agree with for the most part.
 
https://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/...ers-to-try-to-take-anthony-davis-hostage.html

I woke up Monday, heard the news, and wished Bob Whitsitt was still around.

Maybe you did, too.

Anthony Davis will not re-sign with New Orleans when his contract runs out in summer 2020. His agent informed the Pelicans on Monday. Davis would like to be traded to a franchise that gives him a chance to win consistently and chase an NBA championship.

“Trader Bob” would already have been busy plotting how to take Davis hostage via trade for the next 18 months, then convince him that Portland was both of those things. But he’s not. So Portland is about to watch another opportunist NBA franchise do what the Thunder did with Paul George and what the Raptors are doing with Kawhi Leonard.

Look around downtown Portland and what do you see? Cranes everywhere. They’re building toward the clouds. The developers aren’t making small plans. They’re taking acceptable risks and changing the landscape of the city.

General Manager Neil Olshey won’t get this done.

To be fair, I suppose it would be easier to write a column about all the reasons why Davis won’t be traded to the Blazers. At face value, he’s unlikely to re-sign in Portland in summer 2020. The Celtics want him badly. The Lakers covet him, and Davis and LeBron James share an agent.

There’s ownership uncertainty in Portland after Paul Allen’s death. I’m not sure the suits at the Vulcan mothership would be receptive to a massive roster shift given that they’re plotting the eventual sale of the franchise. Also, the Pelicans swept the Blazers in the first round of the NBA Playoffs a year ago.

But that’s where you need visionary leadership to disrupt the league’s narrative. It’s where you need a basketball operations side that believes so deeply in where it’s headed that it’s willing to take a massive risk, re-direct the course of franchise history, and go all-in trying to land a player that could change everything.

By all accounts, guard Damian Lillard is happy in Portland. His contract runs out in the summer of 2021. And while he’s made no public comment that would suggest he’s thinking about playing elsewhere, chasing Davis hard into the Feb. 7 trade deadline would send a strong message to Lillard that he’s in the right uniform.

I spoke to Whitsitt a few months ago.

When I suggested that it was difficult for Portland to land free agents as a small market, he waved it off as a small-minded excuse. Whitsitt took hostages via trade, then re-signed them. He made 19 trades in nine seasons in Portland. His teams went 426-280 (.603) and made the playoffs every year.

“I was told you couldn’t do it when I went down there," Whitsitt said. "We did it... everybody likes to have excuses. It’s a tough business. There aren’t excuses.

"The job is to get the job done. The job is to build a really good team, and that should also be the fun. To do that you’re going to have to take some chances, take some risks, and you’re going to have some thick skin.”

Olshey has made 24 trades since he was hired in the summer of 2012. Nine of them involved “cash” and they’ve hardly been the shape-shifting moves that marked the Whitsitt era. It’s why nobody ever called him: “Trader Neil."

Whitsitt wasn’t interested in saving cash and pleasing the analysts at Vulcan.

He tolerated the suits while trying to win a title.

Traded for Rasheed Wallace. Traded for Gary Trent. Traded for Scottie Pippen and Damon Stoudamire.

“Cash considerations” couldn’t guard those guys.

Davis makes roughly the same salary as Blazers guard CJ McCollum. You’d do that deal in a heartbeat. But the Pelicans wouldn’t. They’d be starting over and want a pile of assets to replace a generational star in Davis. Portland will have to be willing to risk future draft picks and promising young players such as Zach Collins, and it would have to take on New Orleans' worst contracts.

Basically, Olshey would have to be willing to risk his job security to get it done. And that’s where it totally falls apart, really. Because right now, the uncertainty hanging over franchise ownership is a ticking clock for the GM. He’s busy networking and auditioning for his next job.

It’s why the Blazers media relations staff put a note about Olshey in the game notes recently. It was greeted by media and a few other league executives who saw it with snickers. Mostly because, who does that? It noted that Olshey had 299 victories as a GM and was “the third executive to count 300 victories at the helm of the Trail Blazers.”

Cool.

The usher in Section 101 has 655 wins.

Look, I’m not sure Whitsitt would have pulled it off.

Landing a star of Davis' caliber is a high-wire act.

But man, it would have been fun to watch him try.
Too bad "Trader Bob" took on so many criminals into our team. Do you remember the Jail Blazer era? I do. We were losing tons of games and the seats were hardly half full.
Ask me if I'm sorry Bob had to go.
 
Too bad "Trader Bob" took on so many criminals into our team. Do you remember the Jail Blazer era? I do. We were losing tons of games and the seats were hardly half full.
Ask me if I'm sorry Bob had to go.
I blame all the weed still being illegal for that whole era.
 
https://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/...ers-to-try-to-take-anthony-davis-hostage.html

I woke up Monday, heard the news, and wished Bob Whitsitt was still around.

Maybe you did, too.

Anthony Davis will not re-sign with New Orleans when his contract runs out in summer 2020. His agent informed the Pelicans on Monday. Davis would like to be traded to a franchise that gives him a chance to win consistently and chase an NBA championship.

“Trader Bob” would already have been busy plotting how to take Davis hostage via trade for the next 18 months, then convince him that Portland was both of those things. But he’s not. So Portland is about to watch another opportunist NBA franchise do what the Thunder did with Paul George and what the Raptors are doing with Kawhi Leonard.

Look around downtown Portland and what do you see? Cranes everywhere. They’re building toward the clouds. The developers aren’t making small plans. They’re taking acceptable risks and changing the landscape of the city.

General Manager Neil Olshey won’t get this done.

To be fair, I suppose it would be easier to write a column about all the reasons why Davis won’t be traded to the Blazers. At face value, he’s unlikely to re-sign in Portland in summer 2020. The Celtics want him badly. The Lakers covet him, and Davis and LeBron James share an agent.

There’s ownership uncertainty in Portland after Paul Allen’s death. I’m not sure the suits at the Vulcan mothership would be receptive to a massive roster shift given that they’re plotting the eventual sale of the franchise. Also, the Pelicans swept the Blazers in the first round of the NBA Playoffs a year ago.

But that’s where you need visionary leadership to disrupt the league’s narrative. It’s where you need a basketball operations side that believes so deeply in where it’s headed that it’s willing to take a massive risk, re-direct the course of franchise history, and go all-in trying to land a player that could change everything.

By all accounts, guard Damian Lillard is happy in Portland. His contract runs out in the summer of 2021. And while he’s made no public comment that would suggest he’s thinking about playing elsewhere, chasing Davis hard into the Feb. 7 trade deadline would send a strong message to Lillard that he’s in the right uniform.

I spoke to Whitsitt a few months ago.

When I suggested that it was difficult for Portland to land free agents as a small market, he waved it off as a small-minded excuse. Whitsitt took hostages via trade, then re-signed them. He made 19 trades in nine seasons in Portland. His teams went 426-280 (.603) and made the playoffs every year.

“I was told you couldn’t do it when I went down there," Whitsitt said. "We did it... everybody likes to have excuses. It’s a tough business. There aren’t excuses.

"The job is to get the job done. The job is to build a really good team, and that should also be the fun. To do that you’re going to have to take some chances, take some risks, and you’re going to have some thick skin.”

Olshey has made 24 trades since he was hired in the summer of 2012. Nine of them involved “cash” and they’ve hardly been the shape-shifting moves that marked the Whitsitt era. It’s why nobody ever called him: “Trader Neil."

Whitsitt wasn’t interested in saving cash and pleasing the analysts at Vulcan.

He tolerated the suits while trying to win a title.

Traded for Rasheed Wallace. Traded for Gary Trent. Traded for Scottie Pippen and Damon Stoudamire.

“Cash considerations” couldn’t guard those guys.

Davis makes roughly the same salary as Blazers guard CJ McCollum. You’d do that deal in a heartbeat. But the Pelicans wouldn’t. They’d be starting over and want a pile of assets to replace a generational star in Davis. Portland will have to be willing to risk future draft picks and promising young players such as Zach Collins, and it would have to take on New Orleans' worst contracts.

Basically, Olshey would have to be willing to risk his job security to get it done. And that’s where it totally falls apart, really. Because right now, the uncertainty hanging over franchise ownership is a ticking clock for the GM. He’s busy networking and auditioning for his next job.

It’s why the Blazers media relations staff put a note about Olshey in the game notes recently. It was greeted by media and a few other league executives who saw it with snickers. Mostly because, who does that? It noted that Olshey had 299 victories as a GM and was “the third executive to count 300 victories at the helm of the Trail Blazers.”

Cool.

The usher in Section 101 has 655 wins.

Look, I’m not sure Whitsitt would have pulled it off.

Landing a star of Davis' caliber is a high-wire act.

But man, it would have been fun to watch him try.
Whats Super Star did trader sign or trade for?
 
I think he signed Steve Smith and Derrick Anderson?

He traded for Smitty (same with Scottie), and engineered a sign and trade for Migraine.

As for whether or not Olshey is or has contacted New Orleans, getting upset with him because they didn't trade for Anthony Davis is dumb, since New Orleans has to actually want what Portland has.
 
I disagree with the idea that trading CJ and Zach for AD is a risk for Neil's job security. Hell, I think if anything, it would increase his job security. I'd certainly get off the Fire Neil bandwagon
Agreed, that's the type of move that cements his legacy in Portland as the guy who made it happen. I don't even think it really matters how well they do afterwards.
 
As for whether or not Olshey is or has contacted New Orleans, getting upset with him because they didn't trade for Anthony Davis is dumb, since New Orleans has to actually want what Portland has.
Looking at the past trade opportunities, I'm not upset with Olshey for not closing the deal for PG13 or Butler - it's that the rumored offer is not even a legitimate offer....

When he goes into the negotiation with the "Anybody but...." mindset, he's not even going to be part of the real discussions. I like CJ, Collins, Nurk, etc, but NONE of those players should've been "off-limits" in a deal for PG13 or Butler.

It will be interesting to see what the rumored offers are from Portland. The entire roster should be on the table, including Dame (although Dame would be an absolute last resort, without any additional ancillary pieces).
 
Looking at the past trade opportunities, I'm not upset with Olshey for not closing the deal for PG13 or Butler - it's that the rumored offer is not even a legitimate offer....

When he goes into the negotiation with the "Anybody but...." mindset, he's not even going to be part of the real discussions. I like CJ, Collins, Nurk, etc, but NONE of those players should've been "off-limits" in a deal for PG13 or Butler.

exactly...he doesn't make serious offers

I'm still amused how so many people thought that Portland making all 3 of their 1st's available for PG13 while making CJ untouchable was a good offer. It was a joke considering what Indy was offering, and the 'three firsts' leak look either like ass-covering spin or a GM so damn blind to value he couldn't recognize how off-base he was
 
exactly...he doesn't make serious offers

I'm still amused how so many people thought that Portland making all 3 of their 1st's available for PG13 while making CJ untouchable was a good offer. It was a joke considering what Indy was offering, and the 'three firsts' leak look either like ass-covering spin or a GM so damn blind to value he couldn't recognize how off-base he was
It's getting kind of old having you repeat this over and over. Sure they would've had to use the picks wisely but...

Would you rather have Donovan Mitchell, John Collins, and Kyle Kuzma or Oladipo and Sabonis? Oladipo had a very average career at that point and Sabonis was coming off a rookie year in which he did very little to show that he'd be a good player? Offering 3 picks in that draft was a good offer, your continually saying it wasn't doesn't change that fact.
 
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It's getting kind of old having you repeat this over and over. Sure they would've had to use the picks wisely but...

Would you rather have Donovan Mitchell, John Collins, and Kyle Kuzma or Oladipo and Sabonis? Oladipo had a very average career at that point and Sabonis was coming off a rookie year in which he did very little to show that he'd be a good player? Offering 3 picks in that draft was a good offer, your continually saying it wasn't doesn't change that fact.

LOL...why is it that Portland didn't draft those guys?? Indiana already had the 18th pick in the draft and they took TJ leaf, so pretty obviously, just like Portland they weren't seeing the value in Collins and Kuzma

and the Blazers couldn't have drafted both Mitchell and Collins...it was one or the other

your continuous insistence that it was a "good offer" needs to account for what else was offered. It's true, we don't know exactly what it was, but it could have been Turner or Meyers + Harkless, or even, Meyers + Aminu, or Harkless + Davis. How is that better than Oladipo + Sabonis?
 
LOL...why is it that Portland didn't draft those guys?? Indiana already had the 18th pick in the draft and they took TJ leaf, so pretty obviously, just like Portland they weren't seeing the value in Collins and Kuzma

and the Blazers couldn't have drafted both Mitchell and Collins...it was one or the other

your continuous insistence that it was a "good offer" needs to account for what else was offered. It's true, we don't know exactly what it was, but it could have been Turner or Meyers + Harkless, or even, Meyers + Aminu, although I doubt it. How is that better than Oladipo + Sabonis?
No, but indiana could have. Mitchell at 10, assuming the same swap, Collins at 18, kuzma at 24.
 
No, but indiana could have. Mitchell at 10, assuming the same swap, Collins at 18, kuzma at 24.

of course, they could have. But they had an opportunity to draft both Collins and Kuzma but didn't, so 2/3rds of that doesn't fly. Portland could have John Collins, Kuzma, and Josh Hart...but they didn't see the value there. They could have Mitchell and Kuzma but they didn't see that value either. If Portland was blind to the future possibilities of those three picks, why would Indiana's vision be any better?
 
of course, they could have. But they had an opportunity to draft both Collins and Kuzma but didn't, so 2/3rds of that doesn't fly. Portland could have John Collins, Kuzma, and Josh Hart...but they didn't see the value there. They could have Mitchell and Kuzma but they didn't see that value either. If Portland was blind to the future possibilities of those three picks, why would Indiana's vision be any better?
I specifically said they would've had to use their picks wisely. The opinion that they would've blown it doesn't change the fact that there was indeed potential value in the picks they would've gotten plus you have other factors like then they would've been really bad last year and added a high lottery pick instead of making the playoffs and losing in the first round, stuff like that. I still think their current team has a relatively low ceiling and they should've went all in on a rebuild but that's another topic.
 
I specifically said they would've had to use their picks wisely. The opinion that they would've blown it doesn't change the fact that there was indeed potential value in the picks they would've gotten plus you have other factors like then they would've been really bad last year and added a high lottery pick instead of making the playoffs and losing in the first round, stuff like that. I still think their current team has a relatively low ceiling and they should've went all in on a rebuild but that's another topic.

I'm not trying to pick a fight with you or troll you, but when I suggest that Portland's 3 firsts didn't have the value to really get into the deal when attached to one or more of Portland's bad contracts, and you counter by setting the value of those 3 picks as Mitchell + Collins + Kuzma it's not a realistic conversation any more. That's just going all fantasy about the maximum possible value those picks could have had...in hindsight. Portland didn't have the vision to see it and it's unrealistic to expect the Pacers to have predicted the future any better
 
Too bad "Trader Bob" took on so many criminals into our team. Do you remember the Jail Blazer era? I do. We were losing tons of games and the seats were hardly half full.
Ask me if I'm sorry Bob had to go.

Bob had to go
 

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