Politics Dr Schiff schedules colonoscopy for Trump

stampedehero · Feb 7, 2019

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That's a particularly nice bit of horseshit.

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Haha. Like re using the same accusing assholes. Wonder what the rest of the world thinks about God bless America.. Due to politics and a horrible leader who tweets his desert menu, citizens in other countries probably think our leadership are royal asses.

Minstrel · Feb 7, 2019

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Never happened before because previous Presidents voluntarily made their tax returns available.

riverman · Feb 7, 2019

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andalusian · Feb 7, 2019

I have to say that "Presidential harassment" has a nice ring to it. It is right up there with "Billionaire wellfare"

MarAzul · Feb 8, 2019

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Never happened before because previous Presidents voluntarily made their tax returns available.
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Not quite true. The first was Nixon. He was under extreme duress. He had his motives for why.

"When did presidential candidates start releasing tax returns?
In 1973, while under audit and amid a controversy over his personal taxes, Nixon released returns dating back to when he took office in 1969. The scandal led to one of Nixon's most famous quotes. "People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook," Nixon told reporters in November 1973."

Jimmy Carter started it voluntary. But who really cared?
Why do you?

Lanny · Feb 8, 2019

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I'm torn on this. The first part is: I think there are things about America's dealings in foreign countries that are not for public consumption. The second: I want to see every single unclassified thing come to light. If it could cause damage to the US, it should be classified. That's literally the definition of classification...

...but if not? Burn it down and scatter the cockroaches.

However, I also don't love the precedents we've been setting with politics. Biden's SC policies were cool until Paulsen doesn't get in. Harry Reid's nuclear option was cool until McConnell used it. Obama's "legislate through EOs" was uncool for me not b/c it was Obama, but b/c it opens it up for Trump or someone I really don't like to do similarly. Shutting down the government as a bargaining chip wasn't cool leading to sequester, and isn't cool now. Using a flimsy accusation to tear someone's life down to the studs hoping to find something is cool, until it's used against you.

Not directed against anyone here, but if there's almost anyone in DC/politics in general that you're looking at as a hero for working-class normal Joe and Jane, you're probably going to be disappointed. I, for one, would think Schiff would be one of the ones who's careful about what he tries to dig up and how he does it. Then again, I didn't think Spartacus would go hard after Kavanaugh when he had penned an auto-biographical article about committing sexual assault, sooo...
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Democracy is messy. The public needs to know everything that's going on so we can be informed unless it impinges on credibly classified issues. Career officials ought to be deciding what's classified and what's not.

Minstrel · Feb 8, 2019

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Jimmy Carter started it voluntary. But who really cared?
Why do you?
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Because when you have so much influence over the tax system, and many other systems, I think it's in the public interest to have full disclosure of your business interests and operations. Trump isn't being subjected to extra scrutiny, in this case, he's being subjected to the kind of scrutiny the American public has come to expect from Presidents/Presidential candidates.

MarAzul · Feb 8, 2019

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in this case, he's being subjected to the kind of scrutiny the American public has come to expect from Presidents
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Congress has a right to expect what the law requires. I expect the same.

MarAzul · Feb 8, 2019

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Democracy is messy. The public needs to know everything that's going on so we can be informed unless it impinges on credibly classified issues. Career officials ought to be deciding what's classified and what's not.
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The people accountable to the electorate ought to be deciding the policy of what is classified and what is not.

CupWizier · Feb 8, 2019

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Not quite true. The first was Nixon. He was under extreme duress. He had his motives for why.

"When did presidential candidates start releasing tax returns?
In 1973, while under audit and amid a controversy over his personal taxes, Nixon released returns dating back to when he took office in 1969. The scandal led to one of Nixon's most famous quotes. "People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook," Nixon told reporters in November 1973."

Jimmy Carter started it voluntary. But who really cared?
Why do you?
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America cares cause it's important to know if he has foreign ties or other indiscretions that can make him compromised, duh!!!

You don't think that's important?

MarAzul · Feb 8, 2019

We make our decisions on election day. Not by endless investigations by the losers.

barfo · Feb 8, 2019

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We make our decisions on election day. Not by endless investigations by the losers.
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Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi.

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riverman · Feb 8, 2019

MarAzul said: ↑

We make our decisions on election day. Not by endless investigations by the losers.
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so you think one day defines conduct....I beg to differ...and whether you see time lines as endless is your own fear...these investigations are finite...Nixon didn't get a free pass just because he was elected, neither will Trump if he's lying to the American people

Lanny · Feb 8, 2019

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Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi.

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That must mean it's Friday already.

Lanny · Feb 8, 2019

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so you think one day defines conduct....I beg to differ...and whether you see time lines as endless is your own fear...these investigations are finite...Nixon didn't get a free pass just because he was elected, neither will Trump if he's lying to the American people
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Trump, lying? Surely you're kidding.

SlyPokerDog · Feb 9, 2019

julius · Feb 9, 2019

For years we've heard claims that sound like they've come out of the National Enquirer only to never find any meat to the story. And every argument Trump (and his defenders) has made in his own defense is so full of holes and NEVER amounts to anything.

Lanny · Feb 9, 2019

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Change the hair to yellow, paint the face orange with white circles around the eyes and you've got . . . No, it couldn't be.

bodyman5000 and 1 · Mar 25, 2019

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Yeah, it's not like his investigation has uncovered anything, unless you consider 90 indictments as something and that's before Mueller has even released anything.
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Hahahahahaha

Lanny · Mar 27, 2019

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Press Release

Chairman Schiff Statement on House Intelligence Committee Investigation

Washington, DC – Today, Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA), the Chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, released the following statement following the Committee’s organizational meeting:

“Consistent with its jurisdiction, investigative responsibilities, and building on substantial work undertaken during the last Congress, the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (“Committee”) will conduct a rigorous investigation into efforts by Russia and other foreign entities to influence the U.S. political process during and since the 2016 U.S. election. In addition, the Committee will investigate the counterintelligence threat arising from any links or coordination between U.S. persons and the Russian government and/or other foreign entities, including any financial or other leverage such foreign actors may possess.

“In the more than two years since the Intelligence Community released its assessment of Russia’s malign influence operation targeting the 2016 U.S. elections, much has been learned about the scope and scale of Russia’s attack on our democracy, including how covert and overt Russian activities intersected with individuals associated with Donald Trump’s presidential campaign, transition, administration, and business interests, including the Trump Organization. It is now known that, from late 2015 through early 2017, individuals close to Donald Trump engaged in a significant number of contacts with an array of individuals connected to, or working on behalf of, the Russian government, and that several of these contacts involved efforts to acquire and disseminate damaging information about Hillary Clinton and her campaign, or related to Russia’s desired relief from U.S. sanctions.

“While Special Counsel Robert Mueller continues his investigation into whether there were “any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the [Trump] campaign,” and whether any crimes were committed in connection with, or arising from, that investigation, the Committee must fulfill its responsibility to provide the American people with a comprehensive accounting of what happened, and what the United States must do to protect itself from future interference and malign influence operations.

“During the prior Congress, the Committee began to pursue credible reports of money laundering and financial compromise related to the business interests of President Trump, his family, and his associates. The President’s actions and posture towards Russia during the campaign, transition, and administration have only heightened fears of foreign financial or other leverage over President Trump and underscore the need to determine whether he or those in his Administration have acted in service of foreign interests since taking office.

“Unfortunately, these and numerous other avenues of inquiry were not completed during the last Congress. Now, in the 116th Congress, the Committee’s investigation will focus principally on five interconnected lines of inquiry, beginning with these incomplete or unexamined investigative threads:

(1) The scope and scale of the Russian government’s operations to influence the U.S. political process, and the U.S. government’s response, during and since the 2016 election;

(2) The extent of any links and/or coordination between the Russian government, or related foreign actors, and individuals associated with Donald Trump’s campaign, transition, administration, or business interests, in furtherance of the Russian government’s interests;

(3) Whether any foreign actor has sought to compromise or holds leverage, financial or otherwise, over Donald Trump, his family, his business, or his associates;

(4) Whether President Trump, his family, or his associates are or were at any time at heightened risk of, or vulnerable to, foreign exploitation, inducement, manipulation, pressure, or coercion, or have sought to influence U.S. government policy in service of foreign interests; and

(5) Whether any actors – foreign or domestic – sought or are seeking to impede, obstruct, and/or mislead authorized investigations into these matters, including those in the Congress.

“The Committee may pursue additional lines of inquiry regarding matters that arise from the investigation, and it intends to cooperate with other congressional committees, as needed, on matters of overlapping interest. The Committee also plans to develop legislation and policy reforms to ensure the U.S. government is better positioned to counter future efforts to undermine our political process and national security.

“As its first act, the Committee has voted to release to the Department of Justice and its components, including the Special Counsel’s Office, transcripts of testimony taken before the Committee during the 115th Congress, with no restrictions on their use.

“The Committee also plans to release to the public all investigation transcripts, as it is committed to providing the American public with greater transparency and insight into Russia’s operations and the U.S. government’s response. To protect ongoing investigative interests and information that remains classified, the Committee will release transcripts in a manner and according to a timetable that allows continued pursuit of important leads and testimony, while ensuring that the American people have faith in the process and can assess for themselves the evidence that has been uncovered, while legitimate national security interests continue to be protected.

“As Chairman of the Committee, I am committed to leading a thorough and impartial investigation that will follow the facts, and I hope that our Minority counterparts will join us in that effort. Congress has a duty to expose foreign interference, hold Russia to account, ensure that U.S. officials – including the President – are serving the national interest and, if not, are held accountable.”

https://intelligence.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=447
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Trump better pucker up.

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