#2 seed still in play

OneSport3 · Apr 1, 2019

If we can somehow pull off beating the Nuggets twice, the #2 seed will still be very much in play. Nuggets are at the Warriors tomorrow, home to the Spurs, then the home-and-home with us, at Jazz and close out at home with the T-Wolves.

The Rockets are at the Kings tomorrow, at the Clippers the next night, at home versus the Knicks and Suns, and close out at the Thunder.

RR7 · Apr 1, 2019

The difficulty with jumping Denver for #2 seed is that they would own the tie breaker with us, because of divisional record. We're 3 games back in the loss column. We can take care of two of those, but we need them to lose 2 more games, at least, and us to win out. If they can lose to GS, both to us, and then one of SA or Utah, then there's a chance. We should be up for Memphis after we blew it against them last time. Then the back to back with Denver. We then get LA without Lebron, and Sacramento the last game of the year. It's possible...

joeBlazers · Apr 1, 2019

If we have a shot at the #2, then so do the Rockets. They will benefit the most from our games against the Nuggets.

illmatic99 · Apr 1, 2019

RR7 said:
The difficulty with jumping Denver for #2 seed is that they would own the tie breaker with us, because of divisional record. We're 3 games back in the loss column. We can take care of two of those, but we need them to lose 2 more games, at least, and us to win out. If they can lose to GS, both to us, and then one of SA or Utah, then there's a chance. We should be up for Memphis after we blew it against them last time. Then the back to back with Denver. We then get LA without Lebron, and Sacramento the last game of the year. It's possible...

i read that jonas is done for MEM. is that right?

illmatic99 · Apr 1, 2019

I dont think it's worth the trouble. Just get HCA in round 1.

RR7 · Apr 1, 2019

illmatic99 said:
i read that jonas is done for MEM. is that right?

Yeah, I saw that earlier. That should be a big help.

KingSpeed · Apr 1, 2019

If Denver loses to GS and we beat Memphis, both likely, and then we beat Denver twice (possible), we will be TIED with Denver in the standings with 2 games to play. Wowza. If we beat Denver twice and there is a 3 way tie between Houston, Denver, and us, how does that shake down? Anyone know?

joeBlazers · Apr 1, 2019

we own the breaker over James Harden.

KingSpeed · Apr 1, 2019

joeBlazers said:
we own the breaker over James Harden.

Yes but who wins 3 way tie breaker? What is Houston’s record vs Denver?

illmatic99 · Apr 1, 2019

https://www.nba.com/news/features/playoff.tiebreakers/

b. More Than Two Teams Tied

(1) Better winning percentage in all games among the tied teams.

(2) Better winning percentage against teams in own division (only if all tied teams are in the same division).

(3) Better winning percentage against teams in own conference.

(4) Better winning percentage against teams eligible for playoffs in own conference (including teams that finished the regular season tied for a playoff position).

(5) Better net result of total points scored less total points allowed against all opponents ("point differential").

KingSpeed · Apr 1, 2019

So Houston is 4-3
We would be 4-3
Denver would be 3-5

does That have to be threeway tie to move on to next tiebreaker or does that mean we get 2 seed?

KingSpeed · Apr 1, 2019

KingSpeed said:
If Denver loses to GS and we beat Memphis, both likely, and then we beat Denver twice (possible), we will be TIED with Denver in the standings with 2 games to play. Wowza. If we beat Denver twice and there is a 3 way tie between Houston, Denver, and us, how does that shake down? Anyone know?

Scratch that. We would be a half game ahead of Denver.

RR7 · Apr 1, 2019

KingSpeed said:
If Denver loses to GS and we beat Memphis, both likely, and then we beat Denver twice (possible), we will be TIED with Denver in the standings with 2 games to play. Wowza. If we beat Denver twice and there is a 3 way tie between Houston, Denver, and us, how does that shake down? Anyone know?

Here is from ESPN:

Three-Team Tiebreaker:

1. Division winner (this criterion is applied regardless of whether the tied teams are in the same division)

2. Best head-to-head winning percentage among all teams tied

3. Highest winning percentage within division (if teams are in the same division)

4. Highest winning percentage in conference games

5. Highest winning percentage against playoff teams in own conference

6. Highest point differential between points scored and points allowed

What I'm unsure of, if 2 are division winners, does it skip past that to the next tie breaker? Houston will win their division. If all are tied, Denver would win ours.
If it goes beyond that, head to head, Houston is 3-1 versus Denver, 1-2 versus us. Assuming we split the series with Denver, Houston would be 4-3, we'd be 4-3, Denver would be 3-5. So that doesn't break it. Throw out number 3, since not all in same division. So goes to #4, and Denver currently has the best conference record. However, if we're in a tie breaker situation, it could be that Houston has caught them in conference record. Then it goes to 5. And I'm too lazy to do the math

KingSpeed · Apr 1, 2019

KingSpeed said:
Scratch that. We would be a half game ahead of Denver.

Actually a full game ahead provided SA beats Denver. This is gonna be fun. Who wants to come to place for the game on Friday? CC will be there too.

SharpesTriumph · Apr 1, 2019

I'd rather not have Houston get 3 seed if we got 2.

Houston would win three way tie for 2nd seed as they/Den are division winner then it goes to 2 way tiebreaker that they have over Denver.

If Denver loses twice and we win out we still need Houston to drop 2 games to have Denver stay ahead Houston.

A Houston loss tomorrow gives us a one game cushion for 3 seed.

DDolla · Apr 1, 2019

All I want is a first round series against the Clippers.

TBpup · Apr 1, 2019

With Denver having the tie-breaker, I just don't see the Blazers making up 4 games with 5 games left.

hoopsjock · Apr 1, 2019

SharpesTriumph said:
I'd rather not have Houston get 3 seed if we got 2.

Houston would win three way tie for 2nd seed as they/Den are division winner then it goes to 2 way tiebreaker that they have over Denver.

If Denver loses twice and we win out we still need Houston to drop 2 games to have Denver stay ahead Houston.

A Houston loss tomorrow gives us a one game cushion for 3 seed.

But the Blazers or Nuggets would also be the division winner.

dviss1 · Apr 1, 2019

hoopsjock said:
But the Blazers would be the division winner.

FTFY

KingSpeed said:
If Denver loses to GS and we beat Memphis, both likely, and then we beat Denver twice (possible), we will be TIED with Denver in the standings with 2 games to play. Wowza. If we beat Denver twice and there is a 3 way tie between Houston, Denver, and us, how does that shake down? Anyone know?

KingSpeed said:
Actually a full game ahead provided SA beats Denver. This is gonna be fun. Who wants to come to place for the game on Friday? CC will be there too.

I'd come by but I have practice that night.

hoopsjock · Apr 1, 2019

dviss1 said:
FTFY

I'm not sure about that. If they apply the division tiebreaker first then Denver would win the division. In which case both Houston and Denver would be the division winners. I don't think it's possible to be the division winner if we tie Denver.

tester551 · Apr 1, 2019

hoopsjock said:
I'm not sure about that. If they apply the division tiebreaker first then Denver would win the division. In which case both Houston and Denver would be the division winners. I don't think it's possible to be the division winner if we tie Denver.

Divisional winners are determined first. We would have to finish with a better record than Denver (highly unlikely)

borim69 · Apr 2, 2019

I expect CJ will be back for the Denver games. This should show us what we will look like for the playoff picture. I would like to clinch 3 spot before we dream about getting the 2 spot.

swish3 · Apr 2, 2019

Let's finish with 54-28 on the way to the Western Conference and NBA Championships!

KingSpeed · Apr 2, 2019

TBpup said:
With Denver having the tie-breaker, I just don't see the Blazers making up 4 games with 5 games left.

But look at the schedule. They play GS and then us twice. If we win out, Denver just needs one more loss. Losing streaks happen in this league and they blew it last year too.

PtldPlatypus · Apr 2, 2019

2 or 3, I'm just loving the way the playoff bracket looks if we can finish ahead of Houston. Warriors, Rockets, Jazz and Thunder all on the same side, with us, Denver, Clippers and Spurs on the other. Even without Nurk, we'd have a decent shot at a WCF run in that scenario.

Wizard Mentor · Apr 2, 2019

One more win gets us to 50 - that's a successful regular season, and one more than we won last season.

illmatic99 · Apr 2, 2019

I'm seeing Dame getting hounded on traps and guys continually attacking him on defense. He looks absolutely worn out. I really want to give him a few days rest. Will take that over a chance at #2.

julius · Apr 2, 2019

KingSpeed said:
But look at the schedule. They play GS and then us twice. If we win out, Denver just needs one more loss. Losing streaks happen in this league and they blew it last year too.

The Blazers aren't beating Denver twice.

Orion Bailey · Apr 2, 2019

julius said:
The Blazers aren't beating Denver twice.

Way to be the pessimist.

julius · Apr 2, 2019

Orion Bailey said:
Way to be the pessimist.

Or realistic

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