OT Telfair to serve 3.5 years in prison

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GhostOfPGA said:
Gun possession
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I hope there is more to it that just that he possessed a gun.

"The mandatory prison sentence he received today is required by law and he has now been held accountable for the unlawful conduct."
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It would be interesting to know if the gun(s) he possessed were legal in other states. 3.5 Years mandatory would seem awfully strict for a local gun law.

Either way, what a waste of talent.
 
Jesus this is horrible. He was a good dude. Never got into trouble really other than gun issues...
 
GhostOfPGA said:
https://bleacherreport.com/articles...sentenced-to-35-years-in-prison-on-gun-charge

I think it’s absolute bullshit that this is a prison time charge.
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The Bleacherreport article misses a few items that are included in the ESPN piece:

“Telfair, 34, was convicted in April of one count of second-degree criminal possession of a weapon, which stemmed from an arrest in January 2017. Police found firearms, a semi-automatic rifle, ammunition, a ballistic vest and marijuana inside a vehicle Telfair was driving during a traffic stop in Brooklyn.”
 
e_blazer said:
The Bleacherreport article misses a few items that are included in the ESPN piece:

“Telfair, 34, was convicted in April of one count of second-degree criminal possession of a weapon, which stemmed from an arrest in January 2017. Police found firearms, a semi-automatic rifle, ammunition, a ballistic vest and marijuana inside a vehicle Telfair was driving during a traffic stop in Brooklyn.”
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3.5 years for possession of items that individually are legal in many states with no associated crime. I don't smoke pot, but this reminds me of the three strikes rules for getting busted for pot three times. I would think we would be better served using our police and prison system for violent criminals.
 
The semi auto rifle he had was not legal anywhere. Because it had a very short barrel.

It would have been legal in some states IF he had the National Firearms Act title 2 license for it. The license application takes about 3 months, if you are approved, and cost $500.

Not 100% sure of the cost of the license today, but it is at least $200.
 
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Felon with a gun. Simple.
He was convicted for the same charge in 2007 and it cannot be expunged. Simply put he fucked up. He knew he was a felon and was not allowed to possess a gun. Then having a loaded weapon "one in the chamber" would put him at second degree at least.

No question he should have took a deal rather than trying to fight this charge. But he was found guilty because he was guilty of the charge. These are class C felonies.
Telfair might be a "good dude" or whatever but he ain't smart for sure. Taking a charge like this to trial was stupid. Almost as stupid and driving around smoking pot and driving over medians with your headlights off in the middle of the night while you have multiple weapons in your vehicle while you are a felon. Idiot!
 
If the local cops where I live pulled somebody over with that many weapons and body armor I'd feel relieved they did some preventative maintenance....I don't know the man so nice guy or not...doesn't sound too happy to be driving that kind of gear around ...
 
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Here's a photo of what they confiscated:

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Don't know what kind of crap Telfair was into, but it couldn't have been good crap. He could have faced a 15 year sentence, so 3.5 years is the minimum. They've got tough gun laws in NY and Telfair is from there. He knew, or should have known, that there's a stiff penalty to face for this kind of thing.
 
He should have been a jailblazer but was born too late. SAD!

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e_blazer said:
Here's a photo of what they confiscated:

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Don't know what kind of crap Telfair was into, but it couldn't have been good crap. He could have faced a 15 year sentence, so 3.5 years is the minimum. They've got tough gun laws in NY and Telfair is from there. He knew, or should have known, that there's a stiff penalty to face for this kind of thing.
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The irony to me here is that the gun in the middle looks so "evil", but in reality it shoots the same bullets (9mm) at the same rate as the little ones on top, but is more difficult to conceal. You have to wonder what he was up to, or what was he thinking (he wasn't). Maybe he thought it looked cool. Doesn't look very cool from inside a cell.
 
IIRC, he was busted with a gun in Logan headed to Toronto on a road trip.
 
His own fault.
 
FOB: Flashes of Bullets
 
Reep said:
The irony to me here is that the gun in the middle looks so "evil", but in reality it shoots the same bullets (9mm) at the same rate as the little ones on top, but is more difficult to conceal. You have to wonder what he was up to, or what was he thinking (he wasn't). Maybe he thought it looked cool. Doesn't look very cool from inside a cell.
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I believe the two pistols on top are 45 cal (according to one report). The 45 cal is a more powerful round than the 9mm assault mini rifle round.

The small pistol on the bottom appears to be a 9mm.

Also, the magazines for the assault rifle appears to be illegal, over the 10 round max for that weapon, if it was legal to own with the special license required.
 
How does Telfair get multiple years in prison for this when the guys who occupied the Malheur refuge got off scot free?
 
riverman said:
If the local cops where I live pulled somebody over with that many weapons and body armor I'd feel relieved they did some preventative maintenance....I don't know the man so nice guy or not...doesn't sound too happy to be driving that kind of gear around ...
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That gear is nothing. A few handguns and a rifle. Big whoop. And that body armor is soft armor which means it would only stop a handgun round at most. Any kind of rifle round would go right through that. I see no reason to assume that he was up to no good. He is famous... or was famous. I can see why someone would want to protect themselves.
 
oldfisherman said:
Also, the magazines for the assault rifle appears to be illegal, over the 10 round max for that weapon, if it was legal to own with the special license required.
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Illegal in Brooklyn I assume you mean. I believe the big one would be classified as an AR pistol, since it doesn't have a stock. In free states that would be legal with the magazine of over 10 rounds. Actually a very nice home defense gun for those that don't like recoil. Almost go my mom one.
 
riverman said:
yeah...I know you love guns. deja vu......that's an insane amount of ammo to need to protect yourself unless you're under siege by a large armed militia....I wonder if you'd feel the same about the kid who toted that sort of gear to Walmart? Protecting himself from those Mexicans.....Sebastian Telfair isn't that famous to the general public. He got some ink today..
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It really depends on why he was transporting it. To take home from the store for future use it isn't very much. For an hour at the range to practice, it also isn't very much--for those of us that like to practice. I'm assuming that he wasn't just taking it home from the store or heading to the range though, from the outcome.
 
Reep said:
Illegal in Brooklyn I assume you mean. I believe the big one would be classified as an AR pistol, since it doesn't have a stock. In free states that would be legal with the magazine of over 10 rounds. Actually a very nice home defense gun for those that don't like recoil. Almost go my mom one.
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Not sure, you may be correct. But it may have a folding stock on the right side we can not see. It was called a rifle in every report, not an AR pistol.

BTW, not the weapon I have for home defense, or, see a need for home defense. That is an assault weapon.
 
oldfisherman said:
Not sure, you may be correct. But it may have a folding stock on the right side we can not see. It was called a rifle in every report, not an AR pistol.

BTW, not the weapon I have for home defense, or, see a need for home defense. That is an assault weapon.
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To each his own. I respect those that choose not to own guns as well as those that prefer different kinds. AR pistols have longer barrels and are significantly more accurate than any normal pistol. I would hope to never have to use one defending my home, but if I did I would want the most accurate one I could find.
 
Reep said:
I believe the big one would be classified as an AR pistol, since it doesn't have a stock.
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AR Classification???? Administrative Regulation Classification? Allergic rhinitis classification?

AR as in AR-15 means Armalite as in the brand name. AR is not a classification and it does not mean Assault Rifle.

On top the silver/chrome handgun is a .45 1911. They are very common and very reliable.
On the top left is a Glock 43. Also very reliable
The one in the middle is a newer Scorpion EVO 3 or 4??? It is considered a pistol but it is far from a simple hand gun. Yes those clips are way too big without a permit.
The gun on the bottom looks like an ACP .380 or maybe a PICO .380. That looks to me like an ACP Taurus but i can't be sure?

Anyway you look at it he was wrong and this was a stupid move.
 
Voodoo said:
How does Telfair get multiple years in prison for this when the guys who occupied the Malheur refuge got off scot free?
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They were white and had Fox News and Trump on their side.

Telfair was a talented young man in an adult world he wasn't ready for. Turned out he was not qualify talented enough for NBA and didn't seem to know anything else but basketball. I sincerely hope he can straighten out his life.
 
crandc said:
They were white and had Fox News and Trump on their side.

Telfair was a talented young man in an adult world he wasn't ready for. Turned out he was not qualify talented enough for NBA and didn't seem to know anything else but basketball. I sincerely hope he can straighten out his life.
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Wait wait wait. Telfair was young in 2007 yes. But now he is 34 years old and should have known better. Felon with a gun. This is simple. Got nothing to do with Trump or Fox news. This was plain stupidity.
 
kjironman1 said:
Wait wait wait. Telfair was young in 2007 yes. But now he is 34 years old and should have known better. Felon with a gun. This is simple. Got nothing to do with Trump or Fox news. This was plain stupidity.
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She was responding to my post with the Trump and Fox comment.
 
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