Whiteside: trade or keep?

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What should we do with Whiteside?

  • Trade him before the deadline

    Votes: 31 43.7%

  • Keep him, but let him leave in free agency to free up cap space

    Votes: 5 7.0%

  • Keep him with the plan of giving him a new contract

    Votes: 35 49.3%
  • Total voters
    71
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If you think we should keep him, how high should we go? If you say trade, propose a trade.
 
Lets assume dipping the tax isn’t a priority (because if it were he’d be gone for sure)

Next question would be A) his market in the summer and B) his interest in staying as a backup.

I could see his market going either way. As a competitor and where he’s at in his career, I’d assume he’d prefer to start. But it also wouldn’t surprise me if he was ok with a reduced role, because he seems happy in Portland.

I’m probably leaning towards trading him, but I’d be surprised if Olshey actually did. There’s an 80% chance he’s here after the deadline imo.
 
Lopsided for us, but I don't care.

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Let’s be honest, Whiteside is the best Center we have had since Sabonis and I’d place him at 3rd best in team history.

He’s better than Nurk (when healthy) and it’s my guess that Nurk may never play at last year’s level again. That said, trade Nurkic this Summer once everyone sees that he has recovered and sign Whiteside.

don’t get me wrong, I love Nurk and his attitude et al, but find a PF to compliment Whiteside and we will have a very good team next year.
 
BoomChakaLaka said:
Let’s be honest, Whiteside is the best Center we have had since Sabonis and I’d place him at 3rd best in team history.

He’s better than Nurk (when healthy) and it’s my guess that Nurk may never play at last year’s level again. That said, trade Nurkic this Summer once everyone sees that he has recovered and sign Whiteside.

don’t get me wrong, I love Nurk and his attitude et al, but find a PF to compliment Whiteside and we will have a very good team next year.
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His stats are better than Nurk's, I'll give you that...
But stats are very misleading...
Much like Kevin Love in Minnesota, Whiteside puts up guady numbers because nobody else on this team can...the boards are there just for him.
I will concede the ONLY thing he does better than Nurk is blocking shots. He (Hasaan) has a wonderful instinct for that, but Nurk has an instinct for making "winning plays" that Whiteside severely lacks.
 
What happens if Nurk gets hurt again? Collins has no return time that I know of.
 
BoomChakaLaka said:
Let’s be honest, Whiteside is the best Center we have had since Sabonis and I’d place him at 3rd best in team history.

He’s better than Nurk (when healthy) and it’s my guess that Nurk may never play at last year’s level again. That said, trade Nurkic this Summer once everyone sees that he has recovered and sign Whiteside.

don’t get me wrong, I love Nurk and his attitude et al, but find a PF to compliment Whiteside and we will have a very good team next year.
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Wash your dirty mouth out with soap!
 
Wade Garrett said:
His stats are better than Nurk's, I'll give you that...
But stats are very misleading...
Much like Kevin Love in Minnesota, Whiteside puts up guady numbers because nobody else on this team can...the boards are there just for him.
I will concede the ONLY thing he does better than Nurk is blocking shots. He (Hasaan) has a wonderful instinct for that, but Nurk has an instinct for making "winning plays" that Whiteside severely lacks.
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A tip in or a blocked shot can be a winning play and Whiteside can do both very well. He makes it look easy and effortless which is why he doesn't get as much credit as nurk does for his fancy passing (which I do value).
 
CupWizier said:
Hmm. So we get the 3 best players in the trade and save over 5 mil as well? I also don't see Dallas interested in acquiring Dieng and his contract as they just picked up Willy Cauley Stein and they have Boban as well as Porzingis.
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Yeah, I forgot about the WCS acquisition. Ruins any use of Dallas in any of these trade scenarios
 
Nurk is injury prone. I seriously love Nurk, but what do you do with a guy that has missed a lot of games?
Now the calf strain, what next?
 
Cugel said:
Nurk is injury prone. I seriously love Nurk, but what do you do with a guy that has missed a lot of games?
Now the calf strain, what next?
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Replace him with Skal. He's just as good riiight.
 
blazerfan11 said:
What happens if Nurk gets hurt again? Collins has no return time that I know of.
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Cugel said:
Nurk is injury prone. I seriously love Nurk, but what do you do with a guy that has missed a lot of games?
Now the calf strain, what next?
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Any logical GM would shift long term plans with how injury events unfolded... only a stubborn egomaniac like Neil would still stay the course. You cannot depend on Nurk. Neil will waste Dame’s prime.
 
I voted to trade him, might as well try and get some value that lasts beyond this season if at all possible. But at the same time I won’t expect anything to happen.
 
I like Whiteside but he isn't better then Nurkic when Nurk is healthy and we don't have the money to pay him 20+ million nor would I want to pay him that much.
 
Whiteside is an expiring deal who is putting up very nice stats - and there is no indication that anybody wants him. That should be a huge red flag for anybody who thinks we should re-sign him. There was a market for WCS, but not Whiteside.
 
oldmangrouch said:
Whiteside is an expiring deal who is putting up very nice stats - and there is no indication that anybody wants him. That should be a huge red flag for anybody who thinks we should re-sign him. There was a market for WCS, but not Whiteside.
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the WCS 'market" was a team with a 2.2M trade exception and a need for a real cheap C who was playing for a team that didn't give a shit about winning. Not many teams have a 27M trade exception
 
oldmangrouch said:
Whiteside is an expiring deal who is putting up very nice stats - and there is no indication that anybody wants him. That should be a huge red flag for anybody who thinks we should re-sign him. There was a market for WCS, but not Whiteside.
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lmao! The market for WCS, who I believe was on a vet minimum, was a second round pick. I'm sure teams would jump all over that for Whiteside if that's all it took and only a vet min contract. In Whiteside's case it will take salary in the 25 to 30 mil range in return and Portland isn't likely interested in a longer contract(s) of that size without at least getting other heavy compensation. You're comparing Ruth Chris steak house to Burgerking.
 
CupWizier said:
lmao! The market for WCS, who I believe was on a vet minimum, was a second round pick. I'm sure teams would jump all over that for Whiteside if that's all it took and only a vet min contract. In Whiteside's case it will take salary in the 25 to 30 mil range in return and Portland isn't likely interested in a longer contract(s) of that size without at least getting other heavy compensation. You're comparing Ruth Chris steak house to Burgerking.
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So we agree there are reasons he is unwanted. :dunno:
 
oldmangrouch said:
Whiteside is an expiring deal who is putting up very nice stats - and there is no indication that anybody wants him. That should be a huge red flag for anybody who thinks we should re-sign him. There was a market for WCS, but not Whiteside.
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nobody want to take him on as an expiring deal. Guarantee you that if he was under contract for two more years, Whiteside would be coveted!
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Good plan!



WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PLAN???
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Uncertain of what you mean? I’m clear in saying that we should trade Nurkic this Summer if we can re-sign Whiteside. Or figure out a way to keep them both. Let Nurkic come off the bench. Who said it must be Whiteside coming off the bench? We all know it’s who’s on the floor at the end of the game. Maybe Nurk and Whiteside can play as twin towers at time? I’d love to see it!

maybe some of you don’t remember back this far, but for a brief moment we had Maurice Lucas AND Moses Malone on the roster! Oh the “what if’s” Walton goes down the very next year and with Lucas AND Malone we would have won a second title.....and more. All because Weinburger’s wife opted to keep Lucas instead of Moses!

keep Whiteside!!! He’s better than Love, Aldridge, etc.
 
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