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I do not dislike Stotts and i saw in another thread if he got fired that fan would stop being a fan ... well kind of a silly view but to each there own.

I think Stotts is a good coach but i feel like he has taken this team as far as he can and sometimes it's just time to bring someone fresh in to liven things up.

Same kind of goes for NeO too he has had his moments good and bad but i think he is kind of in the same spot as Stotts.
 
MickZagger said:
I don’t want Hammon just because she’s a female. I want someone who’s the best candidate because they’re the best candidate.
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bobf said:
You don't want her only because she's female? I'm not sure that flies in this day and age.
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I don't think Mick is saying that Hammon being a female is a reason he doesn't want her here. I think he's saying that if she is hired, he doesn't want the fact that she would be the first female NBA head coach to be a factor therein, but for her (or whomever is hired) to be chosen solely based on management's belief in their ability to be successful in the position.
 
twobullz said:
I wouldn't be surprised to see someone like Mike Brown. Has championship experience working with stars. He has been an assistant with the Warriors a few years. Not sure he is the best option, but wouldn't surprise me to see his name in the hat.
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I would prefer someone with a little more edge to him.
 
glazeduck said:
Hammond seems like a slam dunk, my only worry would be whether or not she'd be able to command the locker room. I think with leaders like Dame around, she could, but a touch fearful of if/when those guys move on and we end up with a less respectable guy as the center of the team...

On Billups -- I've been intrigued by him as a coach for a long time. I can remember hearing a story late in his playing days about him drawing up a game winning shot play during a timeout that the staff and all of the players were just in awe of. He pulled in specific, detailed components like which defenders were the most gassed, how they preferred to work through screens/guard against mismatches, etc. and was able to -- AS A PLAYER -- draw up the play, communicate it to the team in the timeout window, get everyone on the same page, and then go out and execute it with something like 4 seconds left, and of course it worked and they won. People across the league revere his basketball IQ as being among the best ever.
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I'm uneasy about a guy who never wanted to work as an assistant. I want somebody to come in with a lot of energy and drive and perseverance.
 
I like Brian Shaw, I have said it before but he has known Dame since he was right out of high school maybe even while he was in high school. The reason why people say that he didn't work in Denver was because he held his team to too high of a standard. That's exactly the kind of coach we need. We need a coach that isn't quite as extreme as Thibs but brings it. It won't hurt that Dame already has that crazy Lillard loyalty to the guy so when Shaw gets in guys' faces Dame is there to have his back and Dame will take harsh constructive criticism from him better than any other coach in the league that hasn't been a coach here over the last 9 seasons.
 
Tince said:
That's hilarious... He was actually at his daughters game when I was talking to him. I didn't talk to him during the game because he was lazer focused up in the bleachers. I wouldn't have wanted to be in your shoes!
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It was actually my daughter's coach's husband. I try not to run the clock for that exact reason. I get too busy watching the game.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I don't think Mick is saying that Hammon being a female is a reason he doesn't want her here. I think he's saying that if she is hired, he doesn't want the fact that she would be the first female NBA head coach to be a factor therein, but for her (or whomever is hired) to be chosen solely based on management's belief in their ability to be successful in the position.
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Hah. Yes, I knew that... I was just kidding with him because his wording could be taken either way. I should have used green font! Thanks!!
 
blazerkor said:
I like Brian Shaw, I have said it before but he has known Dame since he was right out of high school maybe even while he was in high school. The reason why people say that he didn't work in Denver was because he held his team to too high of a standard. That's exactly the kind of coach we need. We need a coach that isn't quite as extreme as Thibs but brings it. It won't hurt that Dame already has that crazy Lillard loyalty to the guy so when Shaw gets in guys' faces Dame is there to have his back and Dame will take harsh constructive criticism from him better than any other coach in the league that hasn't been a coach here over the last 9 seasons.
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yeah I’m pretty sure that wasn’t the reason.
 
Over my long impressive career as an NBA fan, I have seen many times, a GM fire his Head Coach, and then take his job.

With that as a backdrop, I nominate...Olshey as our next great Head Coach. As long as he gives up his first name. I desire to call him simply Olshey.
 
mook said:
McMillan is a good coach for developing young players.
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When McMillan was here, that is all who he could coach. When we finally got experienced players who had learned a variety of systems, he had no clue how to coach them...Andre Miller, Jamal Crawford, and the lesser ones added in his last couple of years.
He'd be lost with the players he would inherit. The GM would have to rebuild the roster from scratch, as Pritchard tried.
 
Firing Frank Vogel and replacing him with Kidd was the Lakers original plan.
I'm hoping that the Lakers flame out of the playoffs, said plan happens, and we hire Vogel.
Our defense would improve immediately.
 
Low key Stotts replacement idea. Johnnie Bryant was an assistant on the Jazz since 2012 and then Thibbs hired him as his associate head coach on the Knicks. He's 35 years old and from Oakland. I bet Dame knows him (he went to college in Utah like Dame did), I bet he's hard nosed if Thibbs wanted him as associate HC at his age and I bet he would come in here with some fire.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
I'm uneasy about a guy who never wanted to work as an assistant. I want somebody to come in with a lot of energy and drive and perseverance.
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All I know about Chauncey Billups is that he was mediocre for several years, despite good coaches, who were disappointed. Teams got rid of him. Finally in his 7th season, he made the all-star team.

He's a slow learner. If anyone should apprentice as an assistant coach first, it's him of all people.
 
jlprk said:
All I know about Chauncey Billups is that he was mediocre for several years, despite good coaches, who were disappointed. Teams got rid of him. Finally in his 7th season, he made the all-star team.

He's a slow learner. If anyone should apprentice as an assistant coach first, it's him of all people.
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Have you ever known someone to be a slow learner in their twenties but then become far sharper and quicker on the uptake in their thirties? I can't count the number of people I've known who that applies to. Things come at you fast when you're young and then they tend to slow down for smarter people as they get older, making it easier for them to learn at a faster rate.
 
blazerkor said:
Have you ever known someone to be a slow learner in their twenties but then become far sharper and quicker on the uptake in their thirties? I can't count the number of people I've known who that applies to. Things come at you fast when you're young and then they tend to slow down for smarter people as they get older, making it easier for them to learn at a faster rate.
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So based on that dreamer possibility that he's right that the genius is ready to skip the normal progression in coaching, you want to hire Billups.
 
Your idealism about some people growing up late ignores the context of this particular situation, to which it's irrelevant. Billups claims to be such a fast learner that he insists upon skipping college coaching and assistant NBA coaching, as if he's a student jumping straight into graduate school. His conceit is ridiculous for anyone, but especially for him and his history.

There's a small chance that Billups might succeed this way, but we should hire a coach with a higher probability than that modicum of luck.

The last no-experience rookie NBA coach I remember was Larry Bird, but he had 2 blue chip assistant coaches guiding his way.
 
jlprk said:
Your idealism about some people growing up late ignores the context of this particular situation, to which it's irrelevant. Billups claims to be such a fast learner that he insists upon skipping college coaching and assistant NBA coaching, as if he's a student jumping straight into graduate school. His conceit is ridiculous for anyone, but especially for him and his history.

There's a small chance that Billups might succeed this way, but we should hire a coach with a higher probability than that modicum of luck.

The last no-experience rookie NBA coach I remember was Larry Bird, but he had 2 blue chip assistant coaches guiding his way.
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You don't remember that the team with the second best record in the East and probably the best chance to come out of the East is being coached by a no-experience rookie head coach? He also has some very experienced assistants. The truth is that I don't know if Billups would be good for the job but I like his bbiq and his character.

I did just a day or so ago suggest Johnnie Bryant, who right now, I like the most out of any coaching prospect that is on my very limited radar.

Edit: still not sure about Billups but your premise has a huge flaw... he is currently in his first year as an assistant coach on the Clippers.
 
Here is an ESPN insider article on prospective coaches. I will post the free excerpts I see, maybe somebody else can post some of the other content. "From the moment he retired in 2014, the league speculated that Billups had the personal qualities to build a distinguished career as either an NBA executive or head coach. Billups sniffed around at potential opportunities — including lead executive positions in Atlanta, Cleveland and Minnesota — while working as a studio analyst and color commentator for ESPN and the Clippers. After interviewing last season for the Indiana job that ultimately went to Nate Bjorkgren, Billups joined Ty Lue’s staff last fall, and has thoroughly impressed colleagues with both his gravitas and his willingness to listen — even as an NBA champion who saw it all over 17 seasons. Now that he’s accumulating coaching experience under a boss with a reputation for preparedness, Billups is regarded by insiders as one of the likeliest candidates to receive a head-coaching opportunity sooner than later."

"One of the most sought-after assistants during this past offseason, Allen opted to remain on Erik Spoelstra’s bench, where he’s furthering his graduate education. Whether it’s putting together a scouting report or patiently counseling Heat players on how to exploit the margins of the game, Allen has assumed an enormous workload in Miami, something the organization both demands from its staff and admires specifically about Allen. According to those he has worked with in Detroit and Miami, Allen spends a lot of time not only on the granular details of X’s & O’s, but also thinking about the more holistic needs of “the whole” — judiciously weighing the needs of every player, staffer and the organization. It’s this range of qualities that inspires those peers to believe Allen has a very promising chance to succeed in the first chair."
And then a third guy, not much info: "Accordingly, Rajakovic has become one of the most sought-after assistants in the league, earning himself substantial raises each of the past two offseasons. For team owners and front-office executives who increasingly cite diversity of professional experiences as an asset, Rajakovic would bring plenty of them to the job."


https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/st...other-top-names-league-insiders-buzzing-about
 
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Stotts has 1 year on his contract. Coach K is leaving Duke after one more year. Make it happen!
 
Here's a random thought:

Brandon Roy?

He's probably completely outmatched at the NBA level but you never know. But I think he'd have Dame's respect from day one.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
Here is an ESPN insider article on prospective coaches. I will post the free excerpts I see, maybe somebody else can post some of the other content. "From the moment he retired in 2014, the league speculated that Billups had the personal qualities to build a distinguished career as either an NBA executive or head coach. Billups sniffed around at potential opportunities — including lead executive positions in Atlanta, Cleveland and Minnesota — while working as a studio analyst and color commentator for ESPN and the Clippers. After interviewing last season for the Indiana job that ultimately went to Nate Bjorkgren, Billups joined Ty Lue’s staff last fall, and has thoroughly impressed colleagues with both his gravitas and his willingness to listen — even as an NBA champion who saw it all over 17 seasons. Now that he’s accumulating coaching experience under a boss with a reputation for preparedness, Billups is regarded by insiders as one of the likeliest candidates to receive a head-coaching opportunity sooner than later."

"One of the most sought-after assistants during this past offseason, Allen opted to remain on Erik Spoelstra’s bench, where he’s furthering his graduate education. Whether it’s putting together a scouting report or patiently counseling Heat players on how to exploit the margins of the game, Allen has assumed an enormous workload in Miami, something the organization both demands from its staff and admires specifically about Allen. According to those he has worked with in Detroit and Miami, Allen spends a lot of time not only on the granular details of X’s & O’s, but also thinking about the more holistic needs of “the whole” — judiciously weighing the needs of every player, staffer and the organization. It’s this range of qualities that inspires those peers to believe Allen has a very promising chance to succeed in the first chair."
And then a third guy, not much info: "Accordingly, Rajakovic has become one of the most sought-after assistants in the league, earning himself substantial raises each of the past two offseasons. For team owners and front-office executives who increasingly cite diversity of professional experiences as an asset, Rajakovic would bring plenty of them to the job."


https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/st...other-top-names-league-insiders-buzzing-about
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I would LOVE for Portland to hire Billups.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
"One of the most sought-after assistants during this past offseason, Allen opted to remain on Erik Spoelstra’s bench, where he’s furthering his graduate education. Whether it’s putting together a scouting report or patiently counseling Heat players on how to exploit the margins of the game, Allen has assumed an enormous workload in Miami, something the organization both demands from its staff and admires specifically about Allen. According to those he has worked with in Detroit and Miami, Allen spends a lot of time not only on the granular details of X’s & O’s, but also thinking about the more holistic needs of “the whole” — judiciously weighing the needs of every player, staffer and the organization. It’s this range of qualities that inspires those peers to believe Allen has a very promising chance to succeed in the first chair."


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Malik Allen played in Denver with Melo.
 
This is the guy some people really want?
 
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