Jason Kidd Poll

Kidd seems like the perfect coach if Vegas were to ever get an NBA team.

Ripcity4life77 said:

You do realize the wife thing happened in like 07 or something like that right -- now i am not saying it's ok but people are allowed to make HUGE mistakes learn from them and be BETTER. If you do not want Kidd cause his record coaching wise screams as average or worse fine but to damn him cause of mistakes he has made and hopefully learned from that is.

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Actually it was 2001. Phoenix traded Kidd to NJ because of the domestic violence charge. Then NJ went to 2 straight Finals.

I hope Portland takes about 10 times as long to hire a new coach as it took to fire the old coach after game 6

time for due diligence and to at least take the temperature of Blazer nation about the baggage of Kidd and Billups

I went with Fuck Yeah but not because one player wants him. I think he would be a helluva coach and attract talent that normally wouldn't want to play here.

I am of the mindset that the Blazers are bigger than one player. I love Dame and hope he stays but nobody is entitled to a Championship and i can't stand all of the talking heads saying Dame should bounce and win one. Fuck 'em all. We are the Blazers and RIP City is ours.

We have a great history. We are a Winner and have one of the best Fan bases in the nation.

So yeah, i am good with Kidd but not because of any Dame Dolla Ultimatum.

Here is a guy was reviewing Kidd when Knicks were considering him:
"On the surface, it's not terrible: Kidd has a record that is close to .500, with 183 wins and 190 losses. He also led teams to the playoffs in three of the four seasons he finished as head coach, and on the date he was fired in 2018, the Bucks were in 7th place in the East.

It could also be argued that Kidd had Milwaukee trending in the right direction on offense, going from 25th and 26th in offensive rating over his first two seasons to 13th in his third and 10th at the time he was fired during his fourth. Again: it's not all bad.

But a closer look reveals a different story. As mentioned in Tuesday's Knicks Film School Newsletter, Milwaukee trended in the opposite direction on defense despite having solid personnel on that end of the court, including maybe the most versatile defender in the league, even a few years ago.

More than that though, his teams by and large failed to meet expectations.

Starting in Brooklyn, the Nets team he took over - the one that was famously featured on the cover of Sports Illustrated with a question that can now generously be answered with "anybody decent" - was seen as a legitimate title contender before the season.

That team had a preseason over-under of 52.5 and the fourth best title odds. They finished 44-38 and barely got by the Raptors in the first round of the playoffs before getting wiped by Miami in five games.

The following season in Milwaukee is where Kidd earned many accolades, and they were indeed well-deserved, as he took a 15-win team and led it to a .500 record. But knowing what we know now, perhaps we shouldn't be surprised that a team with Giannis Antetokounmpo starting to figure things out made a bit of a leap.

The next three years, the oddsmakers gave the Bucks preseason predictions of 42.5, 34.5, and 47.5 wins. They ended up winning 33 and 42 games, respectively, in Kidd's second and third seasons, and were on a 42-win pace when Kidd was fired. Again, knowing that he had the soon-to-be two-time MVP in his third through fifth seasons during this time, not to mention future All-Star Kris Middleton, the results leave a lot to be desired."
https://www.si.com/nba/knicks/nba/knicks/news/knicks-jason-kidd-head-coach

Here is some on his last year in Milwaukee: "The Bucks defense has been plain bad for most of the season. It saw a brief uptick after acquiring point guard Eric Bledsoe, but at the time of Kidd’s firing, it ranked 26th in the league in points allowed per 100 possessions (111.3), just behind the sad-sack Atlanta Hawks. But unlike the Hawks or the Phoenix Suns or most of the other punching bags playing league-worst defense, the Bucks have good defenders. Giannis Antetokounmpo alone should be enough to build a defense around, but the Bucks also have Khris Middleton, Thon Maker and Tony Snell — all defenders with the tools to make a positive impact — and down-roster defenders who, if not as gifted, are willing contributors. There’s little excuse for them to perform so badly."
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-bucks-great-defensive-experiment-is-over/

Six reasons why Bucks fired Kidd:
https://www.sbnation.com/2018/1/23/16921324/jason-kidd-fired-bucks-coach-reasons-why

It’s just mind boggling that one of the basketball jobs in the world with a lot of money to spend with an elite player would have to stoop to that level. Hard to believe that’s the BEST option.

My post earlier was not to say the Blazers should hire him cause from a b-ball point of view he is avg at best but to say to discount him for mistakes he did in the past when he prolly learned from them and to OUR knowledge has not repeated is.

This is the problem with cancel culture people who are "Flawed " make mistakes and then asked to say sorry and then KICKED to the curb and spit on without a real chance for redemption most of the time.

ONE last time so i am clear ..... I do not want Kidd as the coach not because of his past in his life BUT because i believe he is a side grade at best to Stotts.

calvin natt said:

It’s almost** funny that so many people wanted to fire Stotts and were so hopeful and excited and possibly the worst replacement in the NBA is even a possibility, and Damian is the one who wants it. You can’t make this shit up

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We wanted to:
A.) Fire Stotts
B.) Find a good replacement

It's a two-part process. They completed Part 1 like we asked. Idk why it's "almost funny" that we were hopeful and wanted B too?

BonesJones said:

We wanted to:
A.) Fire Stotts
B.) Find a good replacement

It's a two-part process. They completed Part 1 like we asked. Idk why it's "almost funny" that we were hopeful and wanted B too?

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I agree.
It's not just get a new coach. It's get a good replacement as well.
I don't know if Kidd would be a good replacement? I would be willing to sit through a year and find out if he has grown as a coach? I would support him like i did Stotts AT FIRST but his leash with me would be rather short is my feeling.

I'm in the camp of "You got to give anyone a chance". Becky Hammond, Chaucy Billups, DAntonio, Howard or whomever. I will give whomever is chosen a chance and go from there.

BonesJones said:

We wanted to:
A.) Fire Stotts
B.) Find a good replacement

It's a two-part process. They completed Part 1 like we asked. Idk why it's "almost funny" that we were hopeful and wanted B too?

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Dammit, you need a C and D option so you can say you wanted the D too.

kjironman1 said:

I agree.
It's not just get a new coach. It's get a good replacement as well.
I don't know if Kidd would be a good replacement? I would be willing to sit through a year and find out if he has grown as a coach? I would support him like i did Stotts AT FIRST but his leash with me would be rather short is my feeling.

I'm in the camp of "You got to give anyone a chance". Becky Hammond, Chaucy Billups, DAntonio, Howard or whomever. I will give whomever is chosen a chance and go from there.

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That's how I am as well. Glad we can agree haha

calvin natt said:

It’s almost** funny that so many people wanted to fire Stotts and were so hopeful and excited and possibly the worst replacement in the NBA is even a possibility, and Damian is the one who wants it. You can’t make this shit up

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This is exactly what I was afraid of.

BonesJones said:

We wanted to:
A.) Fire Stotts
B.) Find a good replacement

It's a two-part process. They completed Part 1 like we asked. Idk why it's "almost funny" that we were hopeful and wanted B too?

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The reality is that I have no confidence we'll land a better coach than Stotts. Kidd would be a significant step back, and I have no confidence Billups would be much better.

It's funny that people spent so much time upset about our really decent situation, and were willing to take a huge step back in the hopes of maybe getting back to that place before Dame retires or demands a trade.

Olshey should have spent the last 4 years getting the next great coach lined up...

Phatguysrule said:

The reality is that I have no confidence we'll land a better coach than Stotts. Kidd would be a significant step back, and I have no confidence Billups would be much better.

It's funny that people spent so much time upset about our really decent situation, and were willing to take a huge step back in the hopes of maybe getting back to that place before Dame retires or demands a trade.

Olshey should have spent the last 4 years getting the next great coach lined up...

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The success of young first time head coaches is always dependent on the staff that they hire. A lot of franchises just don't get this. They'll cheap out on coach and on assistant coaches. For Billups to be successful need an expensive and experienced coaching staff.

Look at the assistant coaches Steve Nash has. It's crazy!

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I hope whoever the Blazers hire they give the coach the same blank check to hire a quality staff.

SlyPokerDog said:

The success of young first time head coaches is always dependent on the staff that they hire. A lot of franchises just don't get this. They'll cheap out on coach and on assistant coaches. For Billups to be successful need an expensive and experienced coaching staff.

Look at the assistant coaches Steve Nash has. It's crazy!

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I hope whoever the Blazers hire they give the coach the same blank check to hire a quality staff.

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Excellent point.

Phatguysrule said:

Excellent point.

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The franchise set up Nash for success with his coaching staff and that can't be cheap. Even if all of them are gone after this season he still had a full season to get his feet wet with quality help.

BonesJones said:

We wanted to:
A.) Fire Stotts
B.) Find a good replacement

It's a two-part process. They completed Part 1 like we asked. Idk why it's "almost funny" that we were hopeful and wanted B too?

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It’s “funny” as in its unbelievable or ironic or whatever you want to call it that step A as you have it was finally done and within 10 hours IMO one of the shittiest options is presented as Damian Lillards preferred coach. It’s like begging your parents for a car and they say fine here is a pile of crap

BonesJones said:

That's how I am as well. Glad we can agree haha

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Stotts was done and his time here was long.
You were always right about that. No question.
I just won't budge on some things. One of them was the trashing him as a person that was going on. Not by you but very prevalent in many comments.
I also can be a total ass at times.

Now lets find a great Coach!

Well Kidd is out..can’t say I’m disappointed

Kidd must read the S2 forum and saw our concern of him becoming coach… I wonder what his handle is?

Duckhook said:

Kidd must read the S2 forum and saw our concern of him becoming coach… I wonder what his handle is?

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It was also all over twitter. Portland fans absolutely smoked him.

what a great day to be a blazers fan

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Now I’m pissed because of this!!!!!! Aren’t we good enough for him? Fuck Kidd

THE POLL WORKED!

Mediocre Man said:

Now I’m pissed because of this!!!!!! Aren’t we good enough for him? Fuck Kidd

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The food is terrible - and such small portions!

I’m not saying it had anything to do with my avatar, but I’m not saying it didn’t either