Re-signing Nurkic: How Much is Too Much?

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by wizenheimer, Feb 9, 2022.

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How much for Nurkic?

  1. 12M and under; 3 years max

    12 vote(s)
    22.2%

  2. 12M and under; 4 years

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  3. 12-15M; 3 years max

    27 vote(s)
    50.0%

  4. 12-15M; 4 years

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    5.6%

  5. 15-20M; 3 years max

    8 vote(s)
    14.8%

  6. 15-20M; 4 years

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  7. Over 20M; are you nuts?

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  1. blazerkor

    blazerkor Well-Known Member

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    You've been horrible at seeing the future in the past so this doesn't really bother me but if we give Nurk much more than 15M a season, I'm going to be pissed unless of course it's in a sign and trade that brings back players that will help us even more than he does... then I'll be happy for him because he's such a good guy but we can't have a really good big who isn't that much better than some bigs who make close to the minimum taking up a huge chunk of our cap space.
     
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    Sheldon Shape Well-Known Member

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    For the current market of NBA centers, I'd be okay with a very slight raise. 13 or 14 mil should be the max.
     
    Sheldon Shape, Feb 12, 2022
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  3. LayneStaley

    LayneStaley Well-Known Member

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    4/56 is my guess
     
    LayneStaley, Feb 12, 2022
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    Yeah, not a lot of options out there that are better than Nurk. He frustrates the hell out of me as well, but I think our best option is to keep him and I am afraid it is going to cost us a little more than we want.
     
    Pinwheel1, Feb 12, 2022
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    Mr. Robot Well-Known Member

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    on a serious note, anything less than 17 per is nothing short of disrespect, 4/70 seems like a legit number

    hes already underpaid on his current contract and some people think he should get less than that lol
     
    Mr. Robot, Feb 12, 2022
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    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

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    no, he is not underpaid on his current contract because in the first 3 seasons of the contract, he missed 111 of the 228 regular season games, and 16 of the 27 playoff games. Combined, he missed 127 of 255 games....essentially 1/2 of all the games Portland played. A half-time C
     
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    Is there a chance any team offers him more than the MLE? That, combined with him saying he wants to play where ever Dame is, makes it seem like we're bidding against ourselves.
     
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    Detroit could have 20M or more in cap-space and are rumored to like Nurkic. It doesn't seem likely, but if they offer Nurkic 20M/year I think Portland is in a bind

    other than them though I really don't see any team that would give him a big deal. Except for maybe OKC

    I went over the possible suitors in the previous page. Maybe I figured things wrong. One thing though is that Portland has nobody else over 6'8. And I sure hope Cronin doesn't fall into the trap of bidding against himself that Olshey did 3 or 4 times
     
    wizenheimer, Feb 12, 2022
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    I'd be shocked if Detroit offers $20m/year, but I suppose anything is possible. OKC isn't going to want Nurk.
     
    Tince, Feb 12, 2022
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    Anything over $15 mil for nurk is a no from me. Too inconsistent to garner more than that.

    If Detroit wants him for 20, I wish him the best.
     
    Strenuus, Feb 12, 2022
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    Here’s my question, if Nurk gets 18-20 mil and leaves would this trade scenario actually work? Would we still be able to resign Ant? Not a huge Turner fan but if Nurk leaves we would have to find someone.

    It says 2023 pick to Indy because it didn’t have the option for our 2022 pick yet. Also the TPE is being used with the NO pick to Det. I just did it as one trade but it would obviously be 2 different trades. This trade is based on us landing picks around 10 and 11.

    Dame
    Ant/Hart/Keon
    Nas/Winslow/Hughes
    Grant/(2nd-Tshiebwe?)/Watford
    Turner/GB3

    That seems like the kind of team Billups wants, very long and athletic.
     
    LayneStaley, Feb 13, 2022
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    Horrible trade for Turner. Why tf would we essentially trade Nurk and a lottery pick for an even worse center in Turner
     
    damianlillard, Feb 13, 2022
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  13. Wade Garrett

    Wade Garrett Exactly right.

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    I would be happy with DSJ backing up Dame, but that would be a enjoyable team, if Turner can stay......well....you know....
     
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    Wade Garrett Exactly right.

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    I think the scenario here is 'in case Nurk leaves in FA'...This is not a trade involving Nurk, per se..
     
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    I said if Nurk leaves in FA and we are forced to find a replacement.
     
    LayneStaley, Feb 13, 2022
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    stop it, just stop it
     
    Mr. Robot, Feb 13, 2022
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  17. Strenuus

    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    He literally said facts. You told him to stop telling you facts lol.
     
    Strenuus, Feb 13, 2022
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    Mr. Robot Well-Known Member

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    all that happened AFTER he signed contract, so WHEN he signed the contract, he was underpaid

    but you guys keep pushing your narrative
     
    Mr. Robot, Feb 13, 2022
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  19. Mr. Robot

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    i pray to god that nurk leaves this godforsaken franchise
     
    Mr. Robot, Feb 13, 2022
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  20. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    The year before he signed his contract, he played 79 games, and had negligible impact on net rating. His TS% was basically equal to Aminu's, he was actually a net negative on offense, and had an overall BPM of 0.

    His pay was in line with his performance to that point. If he were worth more, another team would have offered him more. There's a reason nobody did.
     
    PtldPlatypus, Feb 13, 2022
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