Simons is a nightmare

I don't think you understood my post at all. I was saying, that they're EXACTLY THE SAME THING. Some people come on here, and they have what some people consider to be an inherently negative outlook on the team. They would probably counter and say that they're more logical or more realistic, but that's about perspective. Those people are constantly attacked for having opinions or an outlook that some people find tedious. My point was that there are people who have an inherently positive outlook, and those people can also be tedious, but those people are not constantly attacked for their opinion. So for you to say that some people have thin skin because they don't appreciate being attacked for having an opinion, and not the opinion itself, is unfair because the flip side of the coin is not usually attacked for being annoyingly positive all the time.

And yes, it's against the rules. This site doesn't have many rules, but attacking the poster and not the post IS AGAINST THE RULES.

http://www.sportstwo.com/threads/sports-two-rules-and-staff.192567/

2. This is a big site with a lot of members. You may not like every one of them. However, we expect everyone to at least respect each other.

4. Flame wars are not allowed. We do tolerate poking fun of one another in good fun, but hateful posts towards another poster are not allowed.

7. Everyone is here to offer their opinions, so be prepared to have people disagree with your opinions. There is a difference between attacking someone's post (their opinion) and attacking the poster with the latter not allowed. The staff is here to monitor for such occurrences.

It's not just my opinion. People who repeatedly respond to an opinion about the Portland Trail Blazers with an insult or an attack on the person posting that opinion, are breaking the rules of the forum.

 

Nate, I will respond, but that's it for me. I will not further this. If you have issues with what you feel is someone breaking the rules, take it up with a moderator. To argue about this topic on the board, may not be a violation here, but it is on many sports boards...some that I moderated. As usual, folks tend to minimize one side when they try to make a point, and maximize when they provide the alternative. It's very common in religion and politics. The tipping point on any of the boards I have moderated on, is defined as, "If you have issue, have issue with the post, not the poster".

"This is a stupid post" is an opinion. "You are a stupid poster", is an attack. If you get the difference, cool.

I will share that I was a contributor on some of the first sports boards on the internet. I have observed both the positivity and the negativity. Let me be clear, over time.........the "Over the top positivity" has not increased, it has decreased, and the "Over the top" negativity, has exploded. Good or bad? My guess is you and I share a different opinion on that. I certainly don't know it all. I can say I have logged probably near 300k posts since the sports boards were forming. I have moderated on 4 boards. Doesn't make me an expert, but it has certainly given me a clear picture of where boards were, where they are now, and where it looks like they are headed.

 

Ya I agree, but there is also a big difference between someone who complains 24/7 and then someone who points it out from time to time like I did, as well as others do.

Guess they are allowed to complain 24/7 but when you say something to them about it, you’re now the problem lol.

so what you said is correct, they can dish the complaining out but they can’t take any of it back.

I never knew “go cry yourself a river” was such a hostile comment lol.

 

I will tell you where they're headed…. Young people don’t post on forums lol.

We are a dying breed. All of us. Young people like TikTok and YouTube and Reddit. They don’t come on here. I would bet that the youngest people on here are maybe late 20s or early 30s by this point.

Can anyone who is under 25 post and let me know if I’m wrong?

 

Um, complaining 24/7 every week is different from someone complaining about their negative takes from time to time.

How can some of you get so riled up when someone calls out their constant complaints from time to time, but stay quiet when they complain on this forum all day lol.

If you don’t have a problem with someones negative take 24/7 then you shouldn’t have a problem with mine. Make it make sense please.

 

Yes. I see a lot of that. The other thing I witness is some folks just have to raise the bar in any discussion. Lot's of times, they just have to have the last word. In the end, I really try to be objective. It's hard and sometimes I act the idiot, but I always reflect and reset when I do.

 

Actually I never attacked you lol. I said go cry yourself a river, which last I remember is a common term and not offensive. I said we have to hear your complaints every week now about him, did I lie or say anything offensive?

Then I followed up with people complaining about Simons in the past and him now being #1 scapegoat is two different things. That was just a comment for all those complaining about Simons in general.

yet you get riled up so easily for someone that pushes his views on people 24/7.

You posted that I post “toxic bullshit” is actually more of an attack lol. But I don’t care, it’s forum where views will get thrown around.

If you can throw your views around every day like your opinion is above others, then you should be able to handle when someone makes a comment from time to time about your views.

but you can’t, and that’s the main reason for all of this now lol.

 

Pushes my views

I didn't realize I was going door to door. Do you want to subscribe to my news letter? Have you accepted Nathan Bishop as your lord and savior?

 

Lol, it’s good to see that you’re laughing, as I am. I don’t take this serious on here man, nor should anyone else.

Would I like to see less complaining posted here?yea, but each their own.

but out of all the social media Blazer outlets, this one is by far the most complaining and negative views out of all of them.

for me, I think discussions are more enjoyable when someone can see things from all angles and not just a negative views. But each their own.

 

None of the other social media outlets get into the analytics that this place does. People really debate topics.

Reddit is all memes/video clips.

I don't go on facebook.

Youtube is one-sided because you're watching a stream or a video.

This is the ONLY place where you're going to have an actual conversation about the team. And it's slowly dying.

 

NateBishop gives excellent commentary in my opinion and is on my short list of best posters in the forum actually. He's in that 2nd tier right behind tier 1 posters like Andalusian and Weisenheimer. I find the people complaining about him to give comparatively little to the forum. All the people "rah rahing" about their right to go after posters for "being negative" are among those who often seem to just gum up the forum with drama. Just my opinion.

 

Well, I wonder if it's better on say the Nuggets forum due to recent success, and that being stuck in Olshey's Purgatory for 11 years or whatever might have something to do with the relative amount of bitterness. Sad to think Forums are dying out, but then thanks to the Social Engineers, most of our three line posts would get "TLDR!" from the younger folks. Awful what the Social Engineers have done to education and culture. Le sigh.

 

Sir, you lost all credibility because of the bolded part. But I am humbled that you think so highly of me, likely undeservedly.

 

This thread has become some sort of nightmare. Fuck! It was a good thread about if Ant is good or bad for this rebuild and now it's a thread about posting and what should be posted in threads and what shouldn't be posted in threads and post thread distress and...

 

Id just like to say, for all the shit @Natebishop3 is taking, he is not the person who created this thread….

He seems simply to be participating in a negative thread, as members do.

Before people bash nate ( and ive laid into him at times for being overwhelming here)for posting in this thread, try reading the thread title????

 

Ant is fine for the rebuild if he's not the primary ball handler when Scoot is in the game.

I think the Blazer offense should be one that creates lanes for Scoot and Sharpe to attack the hoop, not for Simons and Grant to get the ball first.

Both Simons and Grant are good outside shooters, so they do fit. Just don't design the offense for them or around them.

Ayton needs to be moving aound. Both to keep the lane clear for Sharpe and Simons, and to create better scoring opportunities for himself as a cutter/lob threat on the weak side when the defense collapses on Scoot and Sharpe.

 

My god, whose is bashing him? Go cry a river comment is bashing him?

Or that he is will post negativity about Simons every week?

“toxic bullshit” was his comment, I just replied back the same thing.

If you and others hasn’t seen, Nate has gotten into the same thing with many other people on, MANY!!

so before you think people are attacking someone, why don’t you look at the person that is always in the middle of this kinda stuff, which would be Nate.

My thoughts are some of you guys a super sensitive bunch man lol

 

Sir, I'm one of those who has gotten into it with him to the point he was cussing at me. It ain't no big thing. Its a forum. It can get nasty but what happens in the forum stays… SHOULD stay in the forum.
With that said, i didn't say you attacked him. I didn't even refer to you, but this post seems to indicate you may also be sensitive to my pointing out the purpose of the thread is a negative tilt to Ant.

Anyone entering this thread expecting anything other than negativity is just setting themselves up for disappointment. To single out Nate and not the thread creator is a fairly obvious sign of bias opinion.

So then nate posts his opinions on the thread topic and you call him out for being constantly negative, but nothing about the negative OP?

And you wonder why he thinks you have it out foe him?

There is a flip side to his point of view. There is also a flip side to your point of view.
The optimal outcome is a compromise.
Im not calling you out anymore than you claim you are not attacking Nate.
I simply made some observations about this thread topic and the resulting content within.