04-05: Breakout Star?

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  1. Trip

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    I believe that Darius Miles will be a franchise type player next season. Also, I think that TJ Ford would lead the league in assists next year.
     
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    Darius Miles stinks. He is a reckless player and can't shoot. His percentages are terrible, and now that people realize that all you have to do to defend him, is play off him, he will be a non factor untill he develops a consistent jumper.
     
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    Joe Johnson
    Samuel Dalembert
    Jamal Crawford
    Flip even more(if he gets to play)
     
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    I think Johnson and Crawford have each broke out this year. They're each averaging over 16 and 18 respectively I do believe. But, they can still get better. Dalembert will be good. He's very athletic for a big man and he will just continue to improve his game.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Darius Miles stinks. He is a reckless player and can't shoot. His percentages are terrible, and now that people realize that all you have to do to defend him, is play off him, he will be a non factor untill he develops a consistent jumper.</div>

    Yeah, thats how he was in Cleveland. Although in his time in portland his shooting percentages have been pretty good, if i'm not mistaken. He's also been able to utilize his atheletic ability and control it instead of just jumping in the air and trying to be like MJ. He's also been able to hit jumpers lately, i'm pretty sure of that. If he keeps improving his shot, he could be a greaaat scorer.
     
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    Darius Miles isnt as bad as you guys make him seem, the guy is only 22 years old. Hes had 3 succesfull season's and this years season when he was/is with portland everything is at his career highs except assists and thats only .6 away. DMiles ranks 15th in the NBA in field goal % and is becoming a more prolific defenseive player. I think DMiles is definitely one of the breakout players next year.
     
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    to answer your question the unstoppable: Raef is my favorite player because he is. i've loved the guy since his 2 first team all american bids in the late nineties at kansas and i have been a fan ever since. he is just the guy i like, no reason, he just is
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Supersonic:</div><div class="quote_post">If it comes down to Milicic or Rasheed, it will be Milicic that stays. Joe D drafted him for a reason, and he will not go anywhere, you can 110% guarantee that one.</div>

    Nothing is guaranteed in the NBA. That's why players buy no more house, they just rent. Even superstars nowadays stopped buying houses. Team managament has its own evaluation of players and I believe Detroit has a good one on Darko... but their evaluation is solely on his game and they may have not included his attitude. If he keeps playing as if "he is offended" as coach Larry Brown suggested in a game this season, the coach could get tired, the management finally could get tired and Darko himself could be tired for not being given playing time. If he asks for a trade maybe the management will say "no" at first, but if he keeps on insisting, what can the management do about it? Just tell him to shut up and just play? How if the kid doesn't want to play there anymore? And this attitude just totally affects his performance? Let him "earn" all those big bucks on the bench? Certainly not, so play him in limited minutes and watch him blow open dunks? No! Waive him? Yes, but trade him? Never sounds better. Better trade him and watch him develop somewhere else like the Blazers did with Jermaine O'Neal, right? Well, at least the Blazers got Dale Davis in return. [​IMG] Steve Francis made Vancouver look like a moron drafting him when he didn't even want to cross the borders. What did the Grizzlies do? They traded him away for sth (the retired Michael Dickerson). But every other team would do the same thing.

    The Pistons will trade Darko Milicic if Darko DOESN'T want to stay there. If Darko WANTS to stay, then he'll stay because the management wants him to stay. Although I would love to agree, there is no guarantee in "Milicic stays as a Piston because Joe D drafted him for a reason". This is NO one-way relationship. Both parties have to love each other to make things work. So, it's simply not enough if the management feels Darko and Darko doesn't feel the management. It's cool to say Darko controls his own destiny, at least in staying as a Piston or not.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting PupMelo:</div><div class="quote_post">Nothing is guaranteed in the NBA. That's why players buy no more house, they just rent. Even superstars nowadays stopped buying houses. Team managament has its own evaluation of players and I believe Detroit has a good one on Darko... but their evaluation is solely on his game and they may have not included his attitude. If he keeps playing as if "he is offended" as coach Larry Brown suggested in a game this season, the coach could get tired, the management finally could get tired and Darko himself could be tired for not being given playing time. If he asks for a trade maybe the management will say "no" at first, but if he keeps on insisting, what can the management do about it? Just tell him to shut up and just play? How if the kid doesn't want to play there anymore? And this attitude just totally affects his performance? Let him "earn" all those big bucks on the bench? Certainly not, so play him in limited minutes and watch him blow open dunks? No! Waive him? Yes, but trade him? Never sounds better. Better trade him and watch him develop somewhere else like the Blazers did with Jermaine O'Neal, right? Well, at least the Blazers got Dale Davis in return. [​IMG] Steve Francis made Vancouver look like a moron drafting him when he didn't even want to cross the borders. What did the Grizzlies do? They traded him away for sth (the retired Michael Dickerson). But every other team would do the same thing.

    The Pistons will trade Darko Milicic if Darko DOESN'T want to stay there. If Darko WANTS to stay, then he'll stay because the management wants him to stay. Although I would love to agree, there is no guarantee in "Milicic stays as a Piston because Joe D drafted him for a reason". This is NO one-way relationship. Both parties have to love each other to make things work. So, it's simply not enough if the management feels Darko and Darko doesn't feel the management. It's cool to say Darko controls his own destiny, at least in staying as a Piston or not.</div>

    Totally agree. And as long as Larry Brown is coaching (who seems to hate his guts), I don't see how Darko would enjoy his stay in Detroit. A trade wouldn't be all that bad for the Pistons anyways. There's plenty of teams in this league who would give up great talent to get Darko playing for them.
     
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    o ya i forgot, crawford dropped 50 last night. 2nd bull to do so.
     
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    Flip Murray: 15.2 points, 4.1 rebounds, 4.5 assists

    Marcej Lampe: 10.7 points, 5.1 rebounds, 0.59 blocks

    Chris Bosh: 15.7 points, 8.9 rebounds, 1.8 blocks

    Mike Sweetney: 10.1 points, 7.8 rebounds, 1.1 blocks

    Mickeal Pietrus: 11.3 points, 4.2 rebounds, 2.1 assists, 1.02 steals

    Dalmbert: 14.1 points, 10.6 rebounds, 2.8 blocks

    Joe Johnson has already broken out, so I don't consider his possible improvements to next year to be a breakout, GO JJ.

    Drew Gooden: 16.1 points, 9.6 rebounds, 1.21 steals, 1.2 blocks

    Milicic: 9.3 points, 6.2 rebounds, 0.8 blocks

    Chris Mihm: 10.6 points, 8.5 rebounds, 1.5 blocks

    Marcus Banks: 11.2 points, 2.1 rebounds, 6.5 assists. 1.5 steals

    Reece Gaines: 10.2 points, 4.0 rebounds, 4.5 assists

    Rodney White: 14.6 points, 5.7 rebounds, 3.1 assists

    Kwame Brown: 15.6 points, 9.3 rebounds, 1.5 blocks
     
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    flip will average around 20. if he plays, and i doubt bosh will average 16.
     
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    Depends where Flip goes though, Ridnour is going to be Seattle's PG, if Flip is in Seattle he's not going to average 20, and depending on what team he goes he likely won't, unless he goes to the Bulls or the Bobcats, or Atlanta.

    Brandon Hunter: 7.0 points, 6.3 rebounds.


    Luke Ridnour: 14.1 points, 3.0 rebounds, 7.1 assists, 1.7 steals
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting ReRun:</div><div class="quote_post">o ya i forgot, crawford dropped 50 last night. 2nd bull to do so.</div>

    3rd Bull to do so, some guy before Jordan's time did it once.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting ReRun:</div><div class="quote_post">flip will average around 20. if he plays, and i doubt bosh will average 16.</div>

    What makes you think bosh won't average 16? So far as a rookie he's been averaging 11.4 and he's been playing out of position for most of the season. He will only improve next season and hopefully he would be back to playing his natural position at PF so averaging 16 would be very possible.
     
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    ok thnx for the update, and he would average 20 in a bunch of franchises - charlotte is just one, but chicagoit would only be if jcrawford played SG.
     
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    Yea I was thinking because Crawford is an FA, so if they do a sign and trade with Seattle with Crawford for Jerome James and Flip. Jerome James' contract then comes off the books the next year, but will Seatlle want another shooting guard when they have Ray, and they don't need a PG either with Ridnour and Daniels.

    G - Hinrich
    G - Flip Murray
    SF - ???
    PF - Okafor?
    C - Eddy Curry
     
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    But they wouldnt trade Crawford, their trying to build around him, and Seattle has enough Guards.
     
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    No actually they're trying to build around Hinrich and Curry, they want to get rid of Crawford but don't want to lose him for nothing. Even with that though they don't want to spend too much re-signing him and if he starts going a lot over mid-level they might not match offers.
    I'd pot some articles but I don't want to go find them now.

    What about Nick Collison, next year will be his rookie season how do you guys think he'll do?
     
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    i dont think collison will break out for a couple yeras maybe his 3rd or 4th season he'll hit double-digit averages. And the bulls could use crawford, but if tyhey want to get rid of him some other team will gladly take him, maybe charlotte.
     

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