|0ffical| Drafting in the lotto

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  1. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Draftexpress says he's 7'0" barefoot, which means he'll probably be listed at 7'2" by the time the draft rolls around. Looks like the size/strength of Leonard with the skills of Plumlee, though without the athleticism of either. I would not complain if we ended up with the 10th pick and brought him in.
     
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  2. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    lol why would CHI do this?

    That sounds easy to do.

    lmao. That easy huh?
     
  3. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Why would CHI do it? Because they'd be rebuilding so bad contacts don't hurt them. And they'd get the #1 pick. Simple.

    There were rumors that teams wanted Crabbe. We would be able to unload him for free during the summer.

    Yes, it is that easy.
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    He's just as athletic as Leonard.

    I'd also say he has the skills of both because he can also shoot the ball.
     
  5. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Profile says he's shooting 28% from INTL 3-point range, so I'd say his jump-shooting is closer to Plumlee's than Leonard's.

    As for the athleticism, the only metric I saw on Draftexpress was standing vert 22, max vert 29. Of course, that was from 2014, so who knows what he's at now. I'll have to see something better than that from him at the combine before I'd be willing to agree that he's as athletic as Leonard.
     
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    Pinwheel1 Well-Known Member

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    I still can't figure out how the Huskies can be that horrible if Fultz is that fantastic. Two conference wins!
    They have 7 decent players. That is more than enough to win in college. His highlights do look fantastic, but the games I have watched ......he does not. It's a puzzler.
     
  7. craigehlo

    craigehlo Elite Wing

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    Hartenstein has a nice first step in the scouting videos. That's a huge weapon 7 footers like Cousins and Anthony Davis use to score pretty efficiently. He's obviously not in their league, but that's not an easy skill for lots of bigs.
     
  8. BonesJones

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    Washington's team sucks. Same as NC State with Dennis Smith. One great player can't make a team good.

    I think his game translates beautifully to the NBA. 6'4 with a 6'11 wingspan, good defense, good athleticism. Can score on all 3 levels. Good ball handler. He'll be good.
     
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    Well, it'll be the second straight year a player is chosen first from a team too crappy to make the tournament. But do we have an example of an actually great player who couldn't drag his team to the NCAAs? (And don't say Lillard.)

    I mean, look at Larry Bird. Whoever heard of Indiana State before or since? Meanwhile Washington has been a lot better before Fultz than with him.
     
  10. BlazerWookee

    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    Fuck the draft. Fuck the lottery.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    That's an interesting theory.

    76-77 Championship team:
    Bill Walton - drafted by the Blazers (1st pick in the draft).
    Maurice Lucas - Drafted by the Portland Trail Blazers from the Kentucky Colonels in the dispersal draft.
    Bobby Gross - Drafted by the Portland Trail Blazers in the 2nd round (25th pick) of the 1975 NBA Draft.
    Larry Steele - Drafted by the Portland Trail Blazers in the 3rd round (37th pick) of the 1971 NBA Draft.
    Lloyd Neal - Drafted by the Portland Trail Blazers in the 3rd round (31st pick) of the 1972 NBA Draft.
    Lionel Hollins - Drafted by the Portland Trail Blazers in the 1st round (6th pick) of the 1975 NBA Draft.

    89-92 Team that lost in the Finals twice:

    Clyde Drexler - Drafted by the Portland Trail Blazers in the 1st round (14th pick) of the 1983 NBA Draft.
    Terry Porter - Drafted by the Portland Trail Blazers in the 1st round (24th pick) of the 1985 NBA Draft.
    Jerome Kersey - Drafted by the Portland Trail Blazers in the 2nd round (46th pick) of the 1984 NBA Draft.
    Cliff Robinson - Drafted by the Portland Trail Blazers in the 2nd round (36th pick) of the 1989 NBA Draft.

    Or how about our team right now:

    Damian Lillard - Drafted by the Portland Trail Blazers in the 1st round (6th pick) of the 2012 NBA Draft.
    CJ McCollum - Drafted by the Portland Trail Blazers in the 1st round (10th pick) of the 2013 NBA Draft.

    Fuck the draft though, am I right????
     
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    Based on current standings Blazers would have #9 pick... A look back at #9 Picks since 2000 (And some #10's thrown in too)

    2000 Joel Przybilla
    2001 Rodney White (Joe Johnson #10)
    2002 Amare Stoudamire (Caron Butler #10)

    2003 Mike Sweetney
    2004 Andre Igoudala
    2005 Ike Diogu
    2006 Patrick O'Bryant
    2007 Joakim Noah
    2008 DJ Augustin (Brook Lopez #10)
    2009 DeMar Derozen
    2010 Gordan Hayward (Paul George #10)
    2011 Kemba Walker
    2012 Andre Drummond

    2013 Trey Burke (CJ McCollum #10)
    2014 Noah Vonleh
    2015 Frank Kaminski (10 Justise Winslow, 11 Myles Turner, 12 Trey Lyles, 13 Devin Booker)
    2016 Thon Maker (Domantas Sabonis #10)

    Bolded are players that had/have solid NBA careers I left 2014 on unbolded but everyone of those players is looking like at least journeyman NBA players. I think sitting at #9 we are in a pretty good place as is in terms of the draft.
     
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    Going back a couple more years at #9

    1999 Shawn Marion
    1998 Dirk Nowitzki
    1997 Tracy McGrady
     
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    I agree he will be good in the NBA, but that does not explain why they are so bad.

    Their players were highly ranked. They have talent. Junior Noah Dickerson was a top 50 player coming out of HS. Sophomore David Crisp played well last year. Thybulle was highly ranked and has played well. Those players around Fultz should be at least competitive in most games. Losing is one thing but I still find it a little puzzling that they are as bad as they are.
     
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    Crisp can't defend, and Thybulle and Dickerson are men.

    If Fultz stayed another year, they'd be top 10, with Michael Porter Jr. and the Garfield guards coming in. Too bad he won't.
     
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    Trading a dame or a CJ to make room for a rookie is insane.
     
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    I agree, fuck tanking.

    We have three building pieces imo. A go to scorer is what teams tank to find, not role players. This isn't a rebuild. I know it's a small sample size, but when Dame, CJ, and Nurk are on the court at the same time, the team plays really well. That chemistry will only get better. We don't need a third star, we just need better complimentary players.

    I'm not against winning the lottery (duh), but I don't agree with this notion that we should be trying to lose games on purpose. For this team, we can find an impact player in the top 15.
     
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    You try to win every game that you can and let the chips fall in place.
     
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    The next Dame or CJ vs 4 more games and Luke Babbitt
     
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    Not really. A pick in the 10-15 range this year is pretty much like a top 10 pick in other years.
     

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