|0fficial|Meyers The Terrible

So to you, someone saying that nobody appreciates Meyers Leonard is the same thing as bashing him?

Cool. My faith in your generation is renewed.

 

Why not blame Festus Ezeli? He's the one that took Cliff's roster spot and has not played one minute of NBA basketball this season.

Any player that is deserving will get his shot. If Cliff was good enough to be on an NBA rooster, he'd be on one. Maybe next year with the league expanding rosters to 17 players by adding two-2-way contracts per team, Cliff will get to be somebody's 17th man. And if he's not, it's NOT Meyers Leonard's fault. Cliff is not a victim here. He has been given shots by multiple NBA teams and, so far, has failed to stick.

BNM

 

Meyers Leonard has never gave me a reason to appreciate him.
When he sets a nice screen, makes a nice pass, doesn't pump fake I usually said something about it in game threads. "Good play Nards".
However for every good thing on the court he does, he makes just as many mistakes.
This isn't because the coaching staff hasn't "enabled" him or teammates haven't "encouraged" him. As they are on record of encouraging him..
Hell CJ even said once in a post game interview. "every time he passes up a shot I want to punch him in the face".
Kudo's for him playing through an injury. But I won't appreciate a player for their in game actions unless they give me a reason to.
I never appreciated this guy either.

 

How is it not?

I love how you're playing the "Younger generation" card when you're sitting here acting immature and childish, trying to start shit about whether or not saying "no one appreciates Meyers Leonard" is bashing him or not.

If being a Strenuus on an internet forum makes you feel better about your personal issues, then keep talking.

 

@Boob-No-More

There are times in my job that it's just as physical if not more physical than Nard's job. As working with animals can be a very physically demanding activity(at times).
I've had a rib dislocated for 2+ years now that effects my ability to breathe(normally at times) deeply.
Lets be real here Nard's is in a physical profession, but there are other professions that are far more physical and people still "work through the pain" because they won't get paid otherwise.
As I said in my last post, kudos for him playing through the injury. But lets not act like he's the only one whos possessed a physical job and gone to work hurt.

 

You can't come into the thread with an aggressive post and not expect me to reply in kind. This is your MO when someone posts something that you disagree with. You did the same thing when I created the thread asking if Dame was the modern Stephon Marbury.

You misinterpreted the intent of the thread, and instead of asking for clarification you just went ahead and assumed that it was a thread shitting on him.

You don't get to play the victim.

 

You guys can say you're taking the high road, but you know what I don't do? I don't go into a post/thread that I disagree with and post "this is fucking stupid." Or "This shit is retarded." I might post something outlining why I disagree, but I don't immediately start by attacking the person.

Now, if someone wants to come into one of my threads and start slinging mud, I'm more than happy to return in kind. I have no qualms with getting nasty. If you want to call my post stupid, I'll happily come right back at you. My claws are always ready to come out. I enjoy it. Just don't turn around and play the victim when I fight back.

 

I don't blame Biebs for sucking, especially since he's demonstrated himself to be a hard worker (like TRob, for example). If anything, it's Olshey's fault for re-signing the guy in the hope of recouping his value.

That being said, I don't "appreciate" him either.

 

I think there's qualities that can be appreciated. The guy has never once complained. He isn't a cancer in the locker room. He hasn't made waves, despite the fact that his playing has come and gone and come and gone. He's always one of the most enthusiastic dudes on the bench. I appreciate that.

 

That middle quote is from the previous argument, or at least not this one. The previous argument, I didn't like like the comparison of Marbury to Dame and thought of it as a knock to Dame because he's better than him. I thought you were knocking Dame by comparing the two. Even if you weren't, we were at a disagreement and didn't like each others posts, just like here.

But in both instances, you took shit to a new level, insulting me and making it personal.

In this arguments, I interpreted this thread exactly how you meant it. How is starting a thread "highlighting" how "no one appreciates Meyers" (your words) not bashing on him? Being the sage that you are, you should be able to see how someone could logically interpret that as a Meyers bashing thread.

My first post wasn't even aggressive. I said "Yet another thread bashing Meyers?", implying that I did think it was bashing Meyers. That's not aggressive though, but I won't judge you for misinterpreting it as such.

You responded with a personal attack, being condescending by calling me "young buck", and inferring that I had no "critical thinking skills" because I'm a college student.

Fuck that shit. Don't make shit personal with me over the interpretation of a thread. Who cares if I misinterpret the thread? Talk about how that's not what you meant, instead of personally attacking me. It's ridiculous.

 

I'm still not seeing how this has anything to do with Cliff Alexander. There was no eitherr decision made between Cliff and Meyers. We didn't cut Cliff to re-sign Meyers. We cut him to sign Festus.

BNM

 

Damn, I didn't know saying "Yet another Meyers bashing thread?" was like saying "This shit is retarded".

Even if I did say "This shit is retarded", that's an attack on your post. Saying shit like "College students have no critical thinking skills" to a college student is attacking the person. You should know. You were a mod.

So if someone doesn't like your post, then you'll come right back at them with a personal attack?

 

OK, I appreciate Biebs only a little less than I appreciate Pat C.

 

Damnit I didn't delete that quick enough and now I gotta do this shit...

The only thing I think is stupid is the fact that you immediately went to insulting this mans intelligence. Not a critical thinker because of his age? PUH-F*****-LEAAAAAAAAAAASE.

Last time I checked you've never come to any of the meet ups to take the chance to get to know Bones or any of the other great RC2 posters in person. Bones is hardly lacking intellectual ability, I had a great time talking with him during the small draft get together at BWW last year, and again at the Toronto skybox game.

In my opinion this is a valid point by Bones. There have been a plethora of Meyers bashing threads popping up over the past few weeks, and you come out with this "There's nothing worded like this because he sucks and has never given us reason to appreciate his play". Which *caugh caugh* is not exhibiting the best critical thinking skills. I'm not going to waste my time pulling up the Meyers appreciation threads which are not titled "Meyers leonard appreciation", but I know they exist, therefor I know this was a failed attempt to make a point.

Maybe instead of reading about them you should try meeting some and having a conversation with them. After all where ever you read that stereotyping BS is nothing more than the opinion of one or a small group of people... People whom obviously lack critical thinking skills themselves.

 

Well, that sucks. Seriously, I can empathize.

Unlike you, Meyers has the option of not playing and still getting paid. That's one of the luxuries of NBA guaranteed contracts. Ezeli, Davis and Nurkic are all getting paid to not play. Meyers could easily say, I've got a fucked up back, I can't play, but he is choosing to play through pain to help his team.

BNM

 

must be hard when all 3 centers in front of you are injured.

 

OK, I'll try one last time, if you don't get it fine, it was only a subpoint anyway.

Let's say the league has 450 players, any you're the 451st. Congrats, you're next in line, but you're actually better than 30+ guys currently in the league. You're getting paid jack, while those 30 guys are getting paid millions, and in some cases tens of millions. Mr. 451 is being screwed by the GMs.

People (and especially GMs) "appreciating" those 30 are actually screwing you over. Of course, for you, life is about to get worse. Another draft is coming with more players entering the league. GMs are taking chances on a bunch of newbs, so now you're better than 40 players in the league, but it doesn't matter, you're screwed.

Cliff Alexander was intended to be an example name-placeholder for Mr. 451 - it's not about him at all.

Now, does this really apply to Biebs? Yes and No. Biebs isn't that bad in an absolute sense, but that doesn't matter. He's terrible relative to his salary, and THAT MATTERS. We have a delicate cap situation, and he's got to go the way of TRob. I'm totally OK with Biebs as a 3rd stringer for vet min, but that isn't the reality. Get rid of his salary and give 451 a chance at a supercheap salary.

 

It boils down to this - I come to this forum to post about basketball. Not to make friends. I don't care who you are, or bones. This isn't the happy sunshine rainbow forum where everyone agrees with everyone else. We disagree. We argue. It happens. You and I have locked horns in the past too. I don't really care. I'll do battle with anyone on here. If you want to discuss the merits of the post, awesome, I'll do that. If you or Bones want to come in here and say things like "more of this shit" or "this is the best you can come up with?" I'll happily take it to that level as well.

When I post something, and someone immediately interprets it as "you're shitting on Meyers and this is the best you can come up with?" I'm going to return in kind. It's that simple. The two times that he has disagreed with me, he IMMEDIATELY turns to insults instead of actually refuting or posting a coherent thought. I post stats, he posts insults. It's cool. I'm good with that. Just don't make those kinds of posts and then cry about personal attacks when I bite back.

 

So I can't really figure out a way to say this without being a dick... I'm not trying to be a dick, but how this sounds is really dickish. So please while you read this remember I'm not trying to be a dick. I just lack the proper words at the moment to respond without being one. So pre-emptive apology for lacking vocabulary.

Thanks but I really wasn't looking for empathy, or trying to tell my sob story. Just pointing out there are people in the world that are far more hurt than Nards who don't have the luxuries he does. Felt the need to do so, because you said. "How many of you go to work injured and have to do more than sit on your ass".
Kudos to him for playing through the injury because life goes on regardless of how you feel. But he'll receive no credit or gratitude from me for doing so.
He'll receive appreciation from me if he performs on the court. Otherwise he'll receive criticism.
Just like any player on this team receives from me.

 

Aww, mannnn. I thought we were friends! Come on, come on, give the Wiz some love. Can I get an emoji? You know you want to