12 Year Old Boy with fake gun dies after shot by Ohio officer

I hear yah! Life has gotten easier since I quit smoking.

 

My Grandsons do both in my back yard and no one knows. They can't even be seen doing it, unless you are in the inner area. A heavy growth of natural coast range vegetation surrounds the perimeter and I am going to leave it that way. So what do you think? Can't annoy anyone if they don't know, can't see, can't hear. They don't discharge weapons or shoot pellets or BBs. I have had no complaint. I am happy with the result.

 

What I don't understand is how a BB gun would upset someone. They're virtually silent. I shot my BB gun in my back yard all the time. It was an old pump action.


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I lived in West Linn for a number of years, one of my next door neighbors was a guy name Chuck Dunning. He is gone now so I can tell his name. He was the son of Red Dunning, and early TV personality in Portland.

http://www.pdxhistory.com/html/kointv.html

He had two young boys, one about 6 and the other about nine. Chuck let the nine year old shoot a BB gun in the back yard. One day I heard the BB gun popping off and then pretty soon, my dog was going nuts, so I investigate. The dog was trying like hell to get over the fence into Lance's yard. I bring the dog in and try to calm him down but he was worked up.
A big dog he was too, a Great Pyrenees, he weight in at around 140 pounds so I sure didn't want him over in the neighbors yard all pissed off.

Just a few days later I hear the BB gun again, I stick my head out the back garage door just in time to see Lance shooting the dog with the BB gun. The dog goes nuts again and Lance runs in the house.

I go over an talk with Chuck. He assures me that his kids wouldn't shoot the dog, no way.
I think to myself, what a dick head, and I go check the dog out. He has a real thick coat of fur and it's difficult to find any thing but I do find one spot he bitches about with a bit of blood.
Lance's BB gun is a pump gun that shoots BBs and .177 pellets, a pretty powerful little gun.

So I take the dog to the vet and get him checked out. The vet knows how to do it much better than me and he pulls about a dozen BBs out of the dog. A couple in the right front shoulder have caused some infecton to start. The whole damn thing cost me about a $1000 bucks.

But I do have a handful of BBs and Mr Dunning had one pissed off neighbor.

I don't think Lance is an exception, probably pretty normal for a kid too young to take proper care of what is ok to shoot.

 

Are you kidding? Only a psychopath, even at that age, would think its okay to shoot a neighbors dog with a BB gun. You should have spoken with the police. The kid was exhibiting the signs of a serial killer. 9 years old is old enough to know the difference between right and wrong. That's the behavior of a young sociopath.


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Exactly. I waived em willingly.

 

Cleveland police's fatal shooting of Tamir Rice ruled a homicide

http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/12/justice/cleveland-tamir-rice/index.html

 

The Cleveland officers in the shooting death of 12-year-old Tamir Rice will not face charges.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/29/us/tamir-rice-police-shootiing-cleveland.html

 

Time for the Feds to step in and clean house throughout the entire county legal system.

 

Did you read what the FBI dude said and see the other angles of the videos? It wasn't as cut and dry as some may think.

 

Good article...and the comments are full of information, too.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tamir-rice-timothy-mcginty_5681d451e4b014efe0d91562

 

I wasn't debating the fucked up legal part of the situation that's for sure. We all know the system is corrupt.

What I'm saying, is that the extra angles of the video definitely lend credence to the fact that the suspect was messing around near his waist band as the cops rolled up. I don't remember if it was just the FBI analysis, or someone at the FBI went on record to say the police were within their limits, of their current training, to respond the way they did. We can also argue that their training is systemically flawed across America, but that's another discussion.

 

It is interesting that people are simply dismissing the fact that the kid was threatening/brandishing at people with a toy replica gun (that had its orange cap removed). It just blows my mind that people wouldn't think there wouldn't be grave consequences for that type of behavior and also the fact that his parents didn't instill common sense into him that would have helped prevent this.

All around, a tragic situation.

 

I just showed the video of this shooting to my nine year old Grandson. I was watching him and his younger brother playing with toy gun last night when it occurred you me to explain the
danger in playing with toy guns outside the safety of our compound. Any where else where people can see you might cause a problem.

He asked, why did they shoot him as soon as they drove up? I said, I don't know, except they probably didn't know the gun was a toy, and they were afraid of a guy with a real gun waving it about.

Then he said, Grandpa, why are you telling me this, I only play with guns here and in my house? Well, I feel like I need to show you what could happen if I didn't make sure you know the things that cause Cops to shoot people. Ok Grandpa.

 

I don't see why not. The system is what it is. If you want the police procedures and policies to change then you need to get the elected and appointed leaders to follow a new system which includes training officers on how you want it done. Grand Juries and Jury Trails are not the tools to affect the change needed.

 

If all officers were require to have Phd's, and do the job without guns, could cities hire enough to keep order?

What GPA would be the minimum cutoff for those continuing on to the Phd cop program?

 

The bitter irony: an adult with a real gun is protected by open carry laws - a child with a toy can be shot down with impunity.