$127m -- Why is LA worth that?

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  1. Pinwheel1

    Pinwheel1 Well-Known Member

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    I would agree....if he was demanding over 25 million/yr like you suggest. But since he hasn't, I am not really understanding the point of this thread.
    Are we really going to have a repeat of last summer's multiple threads talking about why we should trade him? I can already see some of you are in full spin cycle.
     
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    The number is bogging everything down. A max contract 3 years from now will be vastly different then a max contract now. When the cap goes up significantly like its reported to the max contract value goes up as well and the fact its his third contract does add to it as well.
    So toss the money out and ask yourself is LA worth a max 5 year contract, I think he is and any team with the cap space is going to be offering him a max as well.

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    When small market teams get a star, they have to keep them. You give him the max if thats what he wants. Might not be best for business, but better than rebuilding because no other star will want to sign here - and the draft isn't a sure thing.

    That said, Id be pissed if we gave him 127 mill.
     
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    You are worth what the market will pay you. The market will pay him a max contract, therefore, he's worth that. Numbers be damned, stats be damned, you can't just look at a guy and say "that's a max contract guy". No, its what people will pay you based on what will happen if they won't retain you. There isn't only a select 4 or 5 "max contract guys". There are what, 30 teams, and any of them would throw the max at players they think there is value.

    Its sales 101. Nothing to do with how many points or rebound he has. Max contracts aren't "reserved" for any tier of player, its what the market dictates they'll command.
     
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    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    Ah, but the teams who give the players WORTH max contracts them, they tend to win championships while others get saddled with awful contracts and no flexibility.

    Kind of like the Lakers mess now, Kobe sucks and flexibility is nothing.
     
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    Its a gamble. What if Dwight Howard stayed in LA, other dominos would have fallen as well. Its not so black and white. You don't do everything you can to retain Aldridge, your chances of keeping Lillard or attracting free agents gets diminished.
     
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    Who the hell do you think you are, BBert, coming in here all lucid and logical like that? Are you trying to ruin this place or something?
     
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    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    BTW, I'll be pissed if we don't immediately pay him whatever he asks. I want to see #12 in the rafters when he retires.
     
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    I think your lynching desires belong in the mark Cuban thread
     
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    $127M is $.127 BILLION
     
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    You must have forgotten; we allegedly do that 20 miles outside of town.
     
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    Kevin Love has never made the playoffs therefore he cannot put up the numbers Aldridge did this year because he can't get his team there. thought that was self explanatory... but maybe I should have said it better. my bad.
    anyone playing with CP3 would be efficient with how he gets them buckets. See Tyson Chandler.
     
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    It's not "self explanatory", nor is it even a decent argument. Kevin Love has never played with a roster that's half as good as the roster we fielded this season.
    When LMA had mediocre rosters he never got his team in the playoffs either.
    Let's stop with this dumb comparison.
    If this "Love/LMA can't take their teams to the POs" thing tells us anything, it's that PFs generally aren't players you should build around. In the past 30ish years there have been, what, TWO PFs that have been the centerpiece of a Championship team? Neither Love nor LMA are anything close to being on that level.
     
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    Because the Wolfs have zero talent on their roster. lets stop with that dumb assumption right there.

    Rubio<Lillard
    Martin > Matthews offensively.
    Aldridge > Love period.
    Pek > Lopez.
    Zero talent on that wolfs roster.
    JJ Berea has proven he's a commodity that can change the pace of a game. like him or not.

    Aldridge got the Blazers to the playoffs when Roy was injured with a mediocre roster. Thank you come again.

    "self explanatory" was meant for you know.. my PREVIOUS POST when I thought it was self explanatory when I said none of the players listed could put up the numbers Aldridge did because they DIDN'T make the playoffs? Once again. my bad I guess I have to draw a picture.
     
  18. blue9

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    Rubio is terrible as a starter.
    Martin is terrible as a starter.
    Pek is good offensively, but not so good defensively - Lopez certainly provides more to our team than Pek does to his team.
    JJ? Sure, I'd take him over Mo, but that's not saying much.
    When it comes to it, our 5th best player is better than their 2nd best player.
     
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    He's definitely not worth $127m
     
  20. OregonHuskerMan

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    Dwight Howard is clearly worth a max contract, to most people, he is a clear top 5 player, warranted or not. LA I'm not sure is in the same discussion either way. The Lakers clearly wanted him no matter the cost. I'm not so sure that applies to the situation, in my eyes. I can't think of a team with a fringe top 10 player as there building block that will make 20+ mill under their contract.

    On the flip side, I'd argue we still have a chance to keep Dame if we trade LMA for the right pieces, not that I am advocating that yet. I'm more curious to see how next year goes.
     

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