1st Debate! Trump vs Clinton

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  1. VanillaGorilla

    VanillaGorilla Well-Known Member

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    Well yeah, neither do I. As I've said many times, I don't like Cilnton at all. I think she's an unlikable liar... but, obviously, so is Donald Trump. He's also a petulant blowhard who constantly says stupid things that often times don't even make sense from an English speaking standpoint. I still just don't understand how anyone can look and listen to Trump and say, "He should be the president of our country." The only argument I see for that is that he's not a politician, and that's a good thing. That's almost like saying NBA refs suck so we should hire professional baseball players instead.
     
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    The claim that raising corporate taxes will only affect the supper rich, or top 1 or 2% is fiction. Even the top 10% is not close to the truth.

    Raising corporate taxes will affect everyone that is invested in the stock market, which is 48% of all Americans. Almost half the people own stocks and/or retirement accounts, such as 401k and IRAs that own stocks.

    Raising corporate taxes will have a negative affect on almost half our population. The majority of them are hard working middle class workers.
     
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    Holy shit. Live in a cave?

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  4. blue32

    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

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    I didn't vote for Bush. I also am not sure why you're trying to change the topic.

    You missed the entire point of my post. The current person (Hillary) running for president is unfit and a criminal.


    Lastly, there are now reports coming out that Hillary's camp had received the debate questions ahead of time....
     
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    I can not agree since that is nearly our biggest problem today as to why so many jobs are being lost when companies leave the country.
    Raising the corporate taxes that are already the highest in the world will only expidite the exodus. The vast majority will be affected and many are already.
     
  6. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    They do follow the rules. If they don't, it's tax evasion and a prison-able offense.

    Of course everyone should take every deduction they legally can. If it leads to $0, then the behavior that led to $0 was what the government wanted when they wrote the tax code.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Legitimate question: In political debates, is it actually proper procedure for the moderator to challenge statements made by the debaters, or am I wrong in thinking that the moderator's job is really just to ask questions and enforce time limits?
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Depends on who you're rooting for.
     
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    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

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    FIFY
     
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    Here you go:

    Summary of eRumor:

    Hillary Clinton’s campaign has released a video in which New York architect Andrew Tesoro explains that Donald Trump’s organization didn’t pay his firm for thousands of dollars of design work on the Trump National Golf Club in Westchester, New York.

    The Truth:

    Andrew Tesoro’s claim that his architectural firm wasn’t paid in full by the Trump Organization appears to be true — but a few important details were left out of Hillary Clinton’s campaign video.

    Specifically, Andrew Tesoro said the project grew in scope during the design process and his final invoice included about $80,000 in additional costs for architectural services. While those costs were for changes that were approved by Trump, Tesoro said that he expected to have to renegotiate his final invoice with the Trump Organization.

    Still, Tesoro told Forbes that he liked Donald Trump on a personal level and believed that Trump was not “nearly as much of a demon as he often sounds like on the campaign trail.”

    So, based on Tesoro’s account, his architectural firm was underpaid by the Trump Organization for its design work on the clubhouse at Trump National Clubhouse in New York. However, Tesoro said that he expected to renegotiate the final invoice with the Trump Organization.

    That’s why we’re calling this one truth and misleading.

    https://www.truthorfiction.com/architect-andrew-tesoro-conned-donald-trump/

    IMO, Tesoro is a POS traitor to his country who routinely uses HB-1 VISA workers rather than Real Americans who have families to feed.
     
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    "luxury sailboats" ?

    Is that the accurate description of something a man spent 14 years creating? My wife sometimes uses a little different language.
     
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    Funny. I have experienced the world. I have traveled to several countries and lived different ways of life, different cultures. Built relationships and expanded my mind. After Hurricane Katrina happened I went down and helped rebuild houses and communities. So whatever little metaphoric room you are talking about, I don't live in it. I know how the world works, how ours and other governments work, and it's not a pretty sight.
     
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    Especially when the man left unasked most of the salient questions of the day for Hillary.
     
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    We're discussing the debate where it was apparent she hadn't even visited her own website as she did not provide details to any question asked on policy all night.

    I've visited both websites repeatedly, unlike you, and frankly the only details are on Trump's site. Hillary's is clearly written by someone (Debbie Wasserman Schultz) who is not named Hillary and does not resemble any political action Hillary has ever done in her 30 years of ruining our country.
     
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    You have a better temperament than Drumphf that's for sure
     
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    No, they get away with it because they hide their money overseas in banks. It leads to $0 because the lawmakers were paid off to make those loopholes.
     
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    If you want to make $15 bucks hour, vote for Hillary.
    If you think you will get 15 bucks hour after voting for Hillary, you are a fool.
    If you want to work, vote for Trump.
    If you think you will likely have a job after voting for Trump, you might be right.
    If you want to like your candidate, write in your name.
     
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    You know I was wondering about that? I hadn't seen that before. I guess it's up to the moderator...If Trump has a problem with it, I guess he can he mention it before the debate to try and get it in the agreements....though he agreed not to interrupt and did anyway so, I guess that doesn't always work.
     

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