I'm not sure what some people were complaining about. Obviously Kwame is a bust for a #1 pick until he proves otherwise. A #1 pick is not supposed to be a servicable PF or C, a #1 pick is supposed to be a star. Also Mihm was the 7th pick in his draft. Again, this is not a position where you're just expecting the guy to be decent, you're usually expecting a good player. I haven't read the thread yet, so I'm not sure what y'all had to talk about for 3 pages, but it'll be interesting.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Anzx:</div><div class="quote_post">Alright, I get what you're getting at. We just have different opinions of how the "bust" term should be thrown around. Never heard that one though.</div> Yeah I'm just weird like that <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Anzx:</div><div class="quote_post">Agreed to disagree (on what again?) S'all good...</div> Agree to disagree that Kwame is not a bust? <div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">Also Mihm was the 7th pick in his draft. Again, this is not a position where you're just expecting the guy to be decent, you're usually expecting a good player.</div> With Mihm as bust I'm iffy on it. Your saying the guy to be decent than I wouldn't consider him a bust. The draft reports called him a nightmare on defense and offense, in that case I'd consider him a bust.
I have to agree, i consider Kwame and Mihm both busts. Kwame was the FIRST EVER high school pick to be taken FIRST OVERALL. And Chris Mihm was expected to be a very good NBA center
This whole debate just arose because people had misinterpreted the term bust. Just because someone is a bust, doesn't mean they have to be completely useless basketball players. It just means that there's a huge disparity between what was expected and what was produced.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Bobcats:</div><div class="quote_post">How can Kwame Brown not be considered a bust?</div> We're all wondering the same thing. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">With Mihm as bust I'm iffy on it. Your saying the guy to be decent than I wouldn't consider him a bust. The draft reports called him a nightmare on defense and offense, in that case I'd consider him a bust.</div> Chris Mihm is a bust the same way Desagana Diop is a bust. So if the Lakers got the #1 pick in the draft, and at that pick it means you guys did bad. You're hoping for a player to be at least an All-Star for you. If 5 years from now his career high is 11 PPG, he is a bust. Chris Mihm was supposed to be a good C offensively, and defensively with his shot blocking. He came out of college putting up like 18-11 and 3 blocks. Some people thought he could've been the #1 pick earlier in the draft preparations, he's not a guy who's career best year was expected to be 10 PPG, 6 RPG, and 1.2 BPG. Part of his problem is that he can't stay out of foul trouble long enough to stay on the court longer. The thing is that staying out of foul trouble is part of learning to be a good player. I think if he can learn that he still has potential to be a 13-14 PPG, ~9 RPG, and 2 BPG guy, which for a C would make him not a bust anymore. Till then....
Why is everyone acting like I am disagreeing? I said Mihm is a bust, but the way you put it(decent) than I wouldn't consider him a bust since he already is a pretty decent C.
I'd expect more than decent from a 7th pick C when I draft him, unless I'm really reaching for decent. Or unless it's a terrible draft and he's only expected to be decent. You can be a bust and be decent, or be a horrible bust (cough Rafeal Araujo cough). You don't have to suck to be a bust, decent means you can play him and he'll give you production, that's not really an accomplishment.
Chris Mihm is not a bust, he is one of the best center in the history of basketball. I think he will be a hall or framer.
