And also for the record I am not saying that aiding people who are in need is a bad thing. I fully recognize hard times that people are going through in this economy, and if anyone is on them, please dont take my comments as directing them at you, or anyone in particular... getting the things allowed with EBT cards is fully within the rules, and your rights the way its set up. I just think the program can be run better.
Why, though? Fast food is definitely not the healthy way to go, but it's hardly a luxury. It's cheap and often what poorer people eat, whether they are paying for it or the government is. In other words, it doesn't seem like that would be an abuse of the system. They're using the money to buy the (cheap) food that they'd buy anyway.
not so much that its "Fast Food" even though that isnt allowed in Oregon.. and honestly I dont know how many states do. But part of what would "Combat" buying garbage like is bought with Food Stamps.. is that it would only work for food thats being taken home to be prepared. It would seem the Nutrional aspect in it being a "Supplemental Nutritional Assistance Program" would be negated by making it that much more convenient to eat garbage.
Sorry I work in a related field I think the Timbers all just got their EBT cards. They just weren't hungry last night The reserve team they put out there probably don't make shit for money.
I can understand why you'd rather that they purchased things of better nutrition. I would, too. The fact that it angered you, though, made it seem like you felt advantage was being taken of a system. Maybe I misread what you meant by that. I think there are underlying issues why poorer people eat cheap junk food (whether purchased from stores or from fast food joints). Part of it is because it's much quicker. Some poor people have plenty of time, some don't in trying to find jobs or working multiple jobs. But it is also true that poorer people have poor habits. Growing up in that environment often doesn't instill good habits, like maintaining a proper diet, or even basic skills like cooking raw ingredients into something edible and minimally tasty. We can vilify them for it or take an "it is what it is" viewpoint...we can try to address it or not. But I think that's the root of it, not how food stamps or SNAP work. If there were no SNAP, whatever money they had for food would still probably be going to fast food and such.
lol no worries just flipping you crap very true. I only watched it from the feed. Didnt miss much. Although props to the Army last night.. they sure brought it.
Meanwhile your fellow lefties support implementing taxes are sodas and other unhealthy foods. So, it is ok for the government to tell us what we shouldn't eat when it is our own money, but not ok for the government to tell people what they shouldn't eat when it is taxpayers' money. Got it.
gotcha... no I dont feel that resentment towards the people on the benefits. Thats what I was trying to make clear in my post to anyone who receives them, or to clarify a little.. cause I could see how it could come across that way. Them spending the money on what is allowed is fully within their rights. My issue lies with how the program is run, its kinda of off from what its called IMO.. I.e. my department/division of CAF (Children, Adults, and families (please correct me if wrong Barcuda jk)) is called "Self Sufficiency" yet with the rules made the way they are, and how hard advocates push to make things easier on people, I hardly think we help that many people become self sufficient. I have been with the state for going on 4 years, and I can maybe think of 2 instances where I really feel we helped better someone, and helped them with their self sufficiency. I know Nutrition can be defined as just "Food, or nourishment" but I have also seen it defined as "The process of providing or obtaining the food necessary for health and growth" allowing it to be used for what it is now, IMO doesnt aid with obtaining food necessary for health.
I've never supported "health taxes" on sodas and similar types of junk foods. Also, I said in an earlier post that I'm fine with food stamps/vouchers having a more limited grouping of products that they can purchase. Still got it?
You mean, you lazily tried to group multiple people's positions into one to create a strawman to fight. That's cool, apology accepted. Certainly not all aspects of the health care reform.
No, I meant what I typed. Why are you creating strawmen? Typical soft, sensitive, spineless lefty. Way to take a stand. Please refer back to my statement above.
A completely bizarre idea coming from a guy who bitches all the time about big brother government controlling his life.
As your many previous crusades against the less fortunate have proven time and time again, you're not very good at basic math. The real number is closer to 50%, but thanks to help from friends and relatives, and fantastic programs like the Oregon Food Bank, most hungry Oregonians never bother to even look into the food stamp program having heard what a hassle it is. Here's some numbers to toss around: http://www.oregonfoodbank.org/Understanding-Hunger http://www.ktvz.com/news/25803401/detail.html http://www.oregonfoodbank.org/News/...ke-food-a-priority?source=/News/News-Releases
