<div class="quote_poster">Quoting allnet:</div><div class="quote_post">Now you have changed your arguement very quickly,17,7 and 6 are all-star numbers...Numbers you want thats what those are.If he manages to keep his form up then you should have no problem with Lebron in the all-star game.Although this game is for the fans and for the players to have some fun with their fellow NBA players...It's not about who is the best top 10 overall..Thats what team USA is for.</div> Now your on a whole different subject. The USA team is the one players like to sit out. What I meant was I don't want to see LeBron starting/voted in in front of someone who is avg around 25 points-5-6 type numbers.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting MVPlaya:</div><div class="quote_post">IT IS HIS JOB IF HE WANTS TO BE A REAL ALL STAR. 17-7-6. Those are great but his points aren't quite there and he seems to get easy assits.. but he does put up those numbers. So your sayin JUST CUZ HIS AGE AND THE WAY HE PERFORMS FOR HIS AGE MEANS HE SHOULD MAKE THE ALL-STAR GAME? No. The All-Star game is suppose to be for ELITE AND TOP AND BEST PLAYERS OF THE NBA. Is LeBron top? No. He'll make those mistakes, hes 18 I don't care who you are you'll make more mistakes than someone who has played 5 years. You got it all wrong buddy, 17-7-6 is not all-star, so i see your puttin him on your ballet. Over KIDD, IVERSON... etc. If you sayin that hes good for his age, that means hes an all-star, you got it wrong.</div> It is you two who are saying he should not make it because of his age not me.His numbers are all-star numbers..we are not in the 80's where the league is so damn great where you have stars after stars putting up crazy numbers...Not many others put up all-round stats like that...Infact I can't name 5 who right now do.I have got nothing wrong here...you have got it all twisted.
If you read it said, ASSISTS ARE ASSISTS. I'm just addin that comment... chill man. King James, did you vote for LeBron James, or have you not voted yet? HIS NUMBERS AREN'T, DAMN IS IT THAT HARD TO UDNERSTAND? WHO WOULD HE PLAY OVER TELL ME.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting allnet:</div><div class="quote_post">It is you two who are saying he should not make it because of his age not me.His numbers are all-star numbers..we are not in the 80's where the league is so damn great where you have stars after stars putting up crazy numbers...Not many others put up all-round stats like that...Infact I can't name 5 who right now do.I have got nothing wrong here...you have got it all twisted.</div> Look what a great way, its Mods vs. Members Well look, tell me who he would start over. McGrady avgs 25-5-5
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Purple N Gold:</div><div class="quote_post">Now your on a whole different subject. The USA team is the one players like to sit out. What I meant was I don't want to see LeBron starting/voted in in front of someone who is avg around 25 points-5-6 type numbers.</div> This is exactly the problem with kids these days..They think just because a player can basically JUST score he should be considered ahead of others with all-round stats.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting King James:</div><div class="quote_post">Only gets easy assists? His numbers are not all-star worthy? I don't need to debate this any more with you guys. The words speak for themselves.</div> Obviously, all you guys care about is "numbers". Go check out some Laker stats, I doubt any of them are "All Star worthy". Maybe Shaq or Kobe. Malone is playing great, but only 15-12? There's more 18-8 type guys out there, who will sneak in front of him.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting MVPlaya:</div><div class="quote_post">Look what a great way, its Mods vs. Members Well look, tell me who he would start over. McGrady avgs 25-5-5</div> Lebron shouldn't start...Never said he should.. he should however be selected if he keeps up his numbers.If the coaches decide to use 3 PG...players like Mashburn,Miller and Big Z won't be in the all-star game this year...Spots have opened up...They choose 3 centers last year....adding in Lebron would not be a terrible decision.
I'll be honest, I have voted for James, because seeing him in that game would be awesome with his passing skills. His assists should actually be up, because many of the Cavs have dropped his highlight reel passes or had them bounce off their heads. Seeing what he could do with T-Mac and Vince roaming around would be the highlight of the weekend.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Purple N Gold:</div><div class="quote_post">Obviously, all you guys care about is "numbers". Go check out some Laker stats, I doubt any of them are "All Star worthy". Maybe Shaq or Kobe. Malone is playing great, but only 15-12? There's more 18-8 type guys out there, who will sneak in front of him.</div> When will people learn.The all-star game is not about your team record...Numbers is what should matter here nothing else.Lakers have 3 guys who will make the all-star game...So that was a bad example on your part.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting allnet:</div><div class="quote_post">This is exactly the problem with kids these days..They think just because a player can basically JUST score he should be considered ahead of others with all-round stats.</div> Not at all, I'm saying Baron Davis for instance. He's avg like 28-(don't know how many rebounds) 8 assists, and 2 steals a game. What I mean by "similar" stats is a guy avg like 1 less assists, 1 less rebound or something, and avg like 6 more points, should get the vote over LeBron. LeBron will sure as hell get voted over B Diddy without a doubt, not fair at all.
Guys, you can argue starters going back for years, and just like I have already said and you know, the fans make the call. If they vote for him to start, then he deserves to start. Now if he does not get the votes the numbers are all star worthy, having him make that roster would not be a bad idea for a coach because of his creativity.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Purple N Gold:</div><div class="quote_post">Not at all, I'm saying Baron Davis for instance. He's avg like 28-(don't know how many rebounds) 8 assists, and 2 steals a game. What I mean by "similar" stats is a guy avg like 1 less assists, 1 less rebound or something, and avg like 6 more points, should get the vote over LeBron. LeBron will sure as hell get voted over B Diddy without a doubt, not fair at all.</div> I wouldn't be so sure,Davis is very well liked by all fans..He is having an amazing season.Lebron getting in as a bench player should not be a surprise.More so if they use 3 point guards...I want Chauncey Billups to make the all-star as part of the 3rd point guard...but overall stats wise Lebron has better stats...So Billups missing out would not surprise me.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting allnet:</div><div class="quote_post">When will people learn.The all-star game is not about your team record...Numbers is what should matter here nothing else.Lakers have 3 guys who will make the all-star game...So that was a bad example on your part.</div> Man, we have to get on the same page. What in the world are you talking about? First of all, I never mentioned anything about team record. And last, you are so caught up in "numbers" so I said "number" wise some of the Lakers wouldn't make it. Kobe- 21-4-4(those don't look all star worthy) Shaq- 21-10(ok "number" wise he would make it) Payton- 14-3-6(not all star numbers) See, get my point? Now no doubt all of these Lakers are making it, but I was trying to say "numbers" aren't everything, because if everyone of your posts you guys mention numbers, numbers, numbers, and more numbers.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Purple N Gold:</div><div class="quote_post">Man, we have to get on the same page. What in the world are you talking about? First of all, I never mentioned anything about team record. And last, you are so caught up in "numbers" so I said "number" wise some of the Lakers wouldn't make it. Kobe- 21-4-4(those don't look all star worthy) Shaq- 21-10(ok "number" wise he would make it) Payton- 14-3-6(not all star numbers) See, get my point? Now no doubt all of these Lakers are making it, but I was trying to say "numbers" aren't everything, because if everyone of your posts you guys mention numbers, numbers, numbers, and more numbers.</div> With you saying "Obviously, all you guys care about is "numbers". You really should of stated it better...what else are people expected to think when you post that? Payton,Kobe and Shaq are all putting up good numbers...Payton is at worst the 3/4th best point guard in the league.So of course he deserves to make it...The fact Lakers have to share the ball around is why the numbers are down as everybody knows.All 3 guys have worthy numbers to make it...Even if they weren't players we knew well.
[quote name='allnet']Lebron getting in as a bench player should not be a surprise.QUOTE] Actually, that would be a big surprise to me. I feel that if Lebron doesn't get voted in by the fans, the coaches know well enough that Lebron isn't as good as some of the other guards in the east. Case in point- for speculation, let's just say that Tmac and AI get voted in as starters. Then, the east needs 2 or 3 backup guards right? Well then, undoubtedly, the coaches will vote in B. Diddy and J. Kidd, because they deserve to be there. Paul Pierce is one name that everyone (by everyone, I mean the fans) overlooks, but I think that the coaches won't overlook him. So there are a number of players that the coaches know are better than Lebron in the east. That's why if he doesn't get in teh game as a starter, he probably won't be in the game at all.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting allnet:</div><div class="quote_post">With you saying "Obviously, all you guys care about is "numbers". You really should of stated it better...what else are people expected to think when you post that? Payton,Kobe and Shaq are all putting up good numbers...Payton is at worst the 3/4th best point guard in the league.So of course he deserves to make it...The fact Lakers have to share the ball around is why the numbers are down as everybody knows.All 3 guys have worthy numbers to make it...Even if they weren't players we knew well.</div> That's not the voters problem that they have to share the ball. This has nothing to do with their 'team' remember. It's all good though, I'm done with this topic. Peace
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting King James:</div><div class="quote_post">If they vote for him to start, then he deserves to start. .</div>I don't think so. There is usually one, maybe two starters that are chosen by fans that should not start. Lebron will be that one this year when he IS chosen. With that said, the fans want to see him play, can't argue with that.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting MVPlaya:</div><div class="quote_post">The All-Star game is suppose to be for ELITE AND TOP AND BEST PLAYERS OF THE NBA. Is LeBron top? No. He'll make those mistakes, hes 18 I don't care who you are you'll make more mistakes than someone who has played 5 years. </div> Looks like I arrived at the debate late. I will counter that comment and say the All-NBA teams at the end of the season are for the 'ELITE AND TOP AND BEST PLAYERS OF THE NBA (sic)'. The All-Star game is just as much about who the fans want to see as it rewarding the best players. People love watching 'Bron play, they wanna see how he'll do against other stars in the ASG. Whether he deserves it or not is irrelevant cos he will be there.
Rudeezy, that is the RULE that the fans vote the starters, so if they would vote for Danny Ferry to start, then he deserves it, because it is the rule.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting King James:</div><div class="quote_post">Rudeezy, that is the RULE that the fans vote the starters, so if they would vote for Danny Ferry to start, then he deserves it, because it is the rule.</div> Not necessarily. Just because the fans voted Danny Ferry in doesn't mean that he deserved to win. Do you think someone like Ferry deserves to play in an ASG more than someone like KG just because the fans voted Ferry in? deserve, v.: To be worthy of, merit. merit, n. : Superior quality or worth; demonstrated ability or achievement. It is clear from the definitions that the player who DESERVES to be in the All-Star Game is the one who is a better player (or if they have the same talent level but one works hard while the other is a slacker).
