I don't want to hate muchon 'Toine, he gets enough of it. But Ray Allen has hit a career 3 FG% of 39.5%, while Antoine's is 32.6 3FG%. That is almost 7% difference for their careers. Anyway props for supporting Antoine even when he isn't very popular.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#1AntoineWalkerFan)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> ok then ray allen is an "average at best" 3 pt shooter...good call</p> </div></p> </p> through 19 games of a season. his will come around</p>
You can't compare Walker to Ray Allen.</p> Walker was a good shooter at time but Allen is an allstar. (some might make a case that he's a superstar)</p> Walker never reached that.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> You can't compare Walker to Ray Allen.</p> Walker was a good shooter at time but Allen is an allstar. (some might make a case that he's a superstar)</p> Walker never reached that.</p> </div></p> </p> </p> 3 time nba allstar, one time all star starterwho averaged 21 pts 9 rebs and 4 asts per game before being traded from the celticsdid not reach allstar/superstar status? ok.</p> </p> meanwhile over ray allens first 7 season, the exact same sample size...allen averaged 21 pts 4 rebs 4 asts per game...yea, antoine wasnt even close</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (David_Ortiz)</div><div class='quotemain'> Antoine never was a superstar.</p></div> InAntoine'sdefense,thereareonlyaboutfivesuperstarsintheleagueanyway...AllenandPiercearen'toneofthem.KG in his prime...</p>
You can't really defend Walker, he was never close to a superstar, not even a regular star. Just a guy who did his living by shooting a lot of threes.</p> Heres a question, do you consider Peja a star?</p> I don't, even though he's got to be a better player than Walker and is a better shooter.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (David_Ortiz)</div><div class='quotemain'> But Antoine was never even close. IMO he was barely an all-star at his best.</p></div> BarelyanAll-Starissomeonewho'smadetheAll-Starteamonce,whenyoumaketheteamtriceinarow,youdon'tconsideritluckanymore...especiallywhenthecoachesvoteyouin!</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing)</div><div class='quotemain'> You can't really defend Walker, he was never close to a superstar, not even a regular star. Just a guy who did his living by shooting a lot of threes.</div>Sure you can defent Walker, because there are only a limited amount of superstars, and many are not even close.Also, Walker did a lot more than "just shoot a lot of threes." He was the heart and soul of this team, he rebounded when needed the most, he knew how to block out (when no one else knew), made some of the biggest shots during his time here, lead the team, something no player until KG has been able to do.</p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing)</div><div class='quotemain'>Heres a question, do you consider Peja a star?</p> I don't, even though he's got to be a better player than Walker and is a better shooter.</p></div> Peja,inhisprime,wasjustawide-openshooter.</p>
thank you aqua...it gets tiring being the only one who actually looks at the facts and the games and and having to fight against peoples opinions when all they wanna say is "he wasnt a star cuz i said so"</p>
There are certainly some people who go somewhat over-ther-top in bashing the chubby one. There are also some people (*cough* *cough*) who go sort of over-the-top in giving him props. 'Toin did make some allstar teams - yes. Was he to the level of a "superstar"? Absolutely not. Was his effort on-court "equal to KG's"? No. In fact I can think of no one - except for Larry Bird and Jordan - who played as hard and all out as KG.</p> </p>
alright, if we constitute the term "superstar" as kobe/lebron/wade type players then yes he didnt even come close...but my initial arguement came when comparing him to ray allen who was classified as an allstar/superstar earlier in this thread...if someone includes ray allen in the superstar arguement then prime walker is right there with him...especially since their numbers are eerily similar through their first 7 seasons.</p> </p> and just because antoines talent does not equal KGs does not mean he didnt play as hard...and also, not putting KG down at all, its simple to play all out when you are winning every game...toine played all out whether they were winning or losing...and the infamous speech that we all know of to spark pierce and the comeback against the nets in the playoffs...that showed more heart than ive seen in any player...its not rare to see ppl play hard when they are up 20...it is rare to see someone who can believe in his team being down 20+ with 12 minutes to go</p>
Guess who's statline: 23.4 PPG, 8.9 RPG, 5.5 APG, 1.7 SPG</p> Garnett's career best: 24.2PPG, 13.9 RPG, 5.0 APG, 1.5 SPG</p> Chris Webber in his prime: 27.1PPG, 11.1 RPG, 4.2 APG, 1.3 SPG</p> </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (David_Ortiz)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> Prime Walker on the same level asRay Allen? I don't think so.</p> </div></p> again with your "because i said so" arguement...its really getting old...i come out with stats and facts and you just say "nuh uhhh im right"...give me evidence and i will respond...if not then you can be happy with your opinion</p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> Guess who's statline: 23.4 PPG, 8.9 RPG, 5.5 APG, 1.7 SPG</p> Garnett's career best: 24.2PPG, 13.9 RPG, 5.0 APG, 1.5 SPG</p> Chris Webber in his prime: 27.1PPG, 11.1 RPG, 4.2 APG, 1.3 SPG</p> </p> </div></p> THANK YOU!!!...see that ortiz??? someone who uses facts in their arguements...damn, guess who looks like hes in some pretty damn good company...its more like, Prime Allen on the same level with Walker, I dont think so.</p>
