<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ASUFan22 @ Apr 14 2007, 09:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well for those who care, these are the votes that I think both players have gotten so far. I think it's their actual vote and not just guesses because Thomsen, McCallum and Burns really did vote that way. :Votes for Nowitzki:Mark SteinStephen A. SmithGreg AnthonyCharles BarkleyKenny SmithIan ThomsenVotes for Nash:Tim LeglerScoop JacksonBill WaltonReggie MillerDoug Smith (Toronto Star)Marty BurnsJack McCallum</div>wow that's close I think at this point it could go either way. My vote goes to Nowitzki though. He gives 100% night in and night out for one of the best teams in the league.
The MVP race will come down to Nash and Dirk. They are the leaders of the best two teams in the NBA. We've seen their value time and time again, on the court and in the lockerroom they make the Mavs and Suns what they are.If I were to pick next 3 candidates:Kobe Bryant, if the Lakers would perform better on a consistent basis he would've more of a value in this argument. However injuries do happen.Tracy McGrady, he took the Rockets on his back and really turned around a franchise that had been swarmed by injuries the past two years.Tim Duncan, late in his career he's still making the Spurs contendors. If TD isn't considered a legend I don't know what is.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Apr 14 2007, 10:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I guarantee that Dirk wins MVP. This topic is stupid.</div>And why would that be my bold friend?
Looking good for Dirk thus far:Unofficial votes for Nowitzki: 17Mark Stein (ESPN)Stephen A. Smith (ESPN)Greg Anthony (ESPN)Charles Barkley (TNT)Kenny Smith (TNT)Ian Thomsen (CNNSI)Adrian Wojnarowski (Yahoo Sports)David Moore (Dallas Morning News)Steve Kerr (Yahoo Sports)Peter May (Boston Globe)Sekou Smith (Atlanta Journal Constitution)Percy Allen (Seattle Times)David Aldridge ( Philadelphia Inquier)Loren Jorgensen (Desert News)Ira Winderman (Sun-Sentinal)John Jackson (Chicago Sun Times)Dave D'alessandro (Newark Star Ledger)Unofficial votes for Nash: 13Tim Legler (ESPN)Scoop Jackson (ESPN)Bill Walton (ESPN)Reggie Miller (TNT)Doug Smith (Toronto Star)Marty Burns (CNNSI)Jack McCallum (CNNSI)Mike Monroe (San-Antonio Express)Randy Hill (Fox Sports)Israel Gutierrez (Miami Herald)Daryl Matsuda ( Mercury News)Bill Doyle (Worcester Telegram & Gazette)Tom Povtak (Orlando Sentinel)
Yeah, Dirk with the slight lead, hope he grabs it. Haha, at Stephen A voting for Dirk, he always seems to bash Nash.where did you get that voting update ASU?
Someone posts it on another forum. I'll ask him. I know some of them were right from an article on ESPN so I'm assuming.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ASUFan22 @ Apr 15 2007, 01:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Someone posts it on another forum. I'll ask him. I know some of them were right from an article on ESPN so I'm assuming.</div>http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story...mp;sportCat=nbaScoop Jackson is against Nash being mvp, so your list isn't correct.And ESPN has always been anti-nash as a whole. Last year Nash finished behind Dirk, Kobe, and Lebron among espn writers, but #1 overall.
This topic, again, is stupid. The #1 team the whole season has been the Mavs. So give it to their leader and best player. Obvious.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Apr 16 2007, 09:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This topic, again, is stupid. The #1 team the whole season has been the Mavs. So give it to their leader and best player. Obvious.</div>that's the traditional definition of most valuable player, the question is should that definition be changed.Statistically, Nash, Dirk, and Duncan are all worth about 25 wins to their team, In other words if they were removed their teams would win 25 less games. Statistically speaking Gilbert Arenas and Kevin Garnett are more valuable as their team has more of a dropoff when they are out of the game. The question in this thread, a thread asking for five candidates, is whether one can be an MVP if their team wins 35 games, if their team would have won 6 games without them.Now I personally think Nash should be MVP, but just saying......
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Apr 16 2007, 11:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This topic, again, is stupid. The #1 team the whole season has been the Mavs. So give it to their leader and best player. Obvious.</div> Great idea, and we can re-name the MVP, the 'Best player on the team with most wins' award. I just think the MVP should go to the 'best' player in the league....I'm not going to discredit a guy because his team isn't as talented as anothers.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Apr 17 2007, 06:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Great idea, and we can re-name the MVP, the 'Best player on the team with most wins' award. I just think the MVP should go to the 'best' player in the league....I'm not going to discredit a guy because his team isn't as talented as anothers.</div>I agree and disagree. I think the award shouldn't automatically go to a player from the top team. It also should just go to the best player either though. Its called MVP not player of the year, players can be extremely valuable to their team and it's set-up but not as good as other players.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ASUFan22 @ Apr 15 2007, 11:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Nash votersTim Legler (ESPN)Scoop Jackson (ESPN)Bill Walton (ESPN)Reggie Miller (TNT)Doug Smith (Toronto Star)Marty Burns (CNNSI)Jack McCallum (CNNSI)Mike Monroe (San-Antonio Express)Randy Hill (Fox Sports)Israel Gutierrez (Miami Herald)Daryl Matsuda ( Mercury News)Bill Doyle (Worcester Telegram & Gazette)Tom Povtak (Orlando Sentinel)</div> Those people have now been added to my hit-list.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Apr 17 2007, 04:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Those people have now been added to my hit-list.</div>*Kills BCB before he can destroy Steve Nash MVP votes*Mwahaha :ranting:
Do all of those people actually have a vote? I can't bring myself to believe that morons such as Greg Anthony and Bill Walton actually have a vote :no3:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I just think the MVP should go to the 'best' player in the league....I'm not going to discredit a guy because his team isn't as talented as anothers.</div>but "best" and "most valuable" are not always the same thing.
