<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Aug 7 2008, 07:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J_Ray @ Aug 7 2008, 08:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>PG- Eric Gordon SG- Mike Miller SF- LeBron James PF- Chris Wilcox C - Jermaine O'Neal Best team in the Pacific Division so far </div> You have a guy who can dunk, and a guy who will play sometimes, in your front court. Bad defense all around :-( </div> I sense envy in the air JO is still a great shotblocker and rebounder, that's a team player. Wilcox is also a good role player, that gets the job done, and last time I checked, a dunk is the highest percentage shot in the game LeBron also took the Cavs to the finals practically alone, and I put to great shooters, that can handle the ball a bit too and create for themselves in the backcourt with him. My defense is decent, which should be good enough to get by. The backcourt also has a bit of an height advantage IMO
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Aug 8 2008, 12:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Eric Gordon is not a PG.</div> I concur with this. Hell, even Mike Miller is more of a passing guard than Eric.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Aug 7 2008, 09:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Eric Gordon is not a PG.</div> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Aug 7 2008, 10:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Aug 8 2008, 12:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Eric Gordon is not a PG.</div> I concur with this. Hell, even Mike Miller is more of a passing guard than Eric. </div> But with LeBron, you don't exactly need a passing PG, you just need a shooter/scorer IMO that can finish since he dominates the ball. Mike Miller is also a good passer like you said, so Gordon can fit in well with them IMO.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J_Ray @ Aug 8 2008, 01:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Aug 7 2008, 09:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Eric Gordon is not a PG.</div> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Aug 7 2008, 10:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Aug 8 2008, 12:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Eric Gordon is not a PG.</div> I concur with this. Hell, even Mike Miller is more of a passing guard than Eric. </div> But with LeBron, you don't exactly need a passing PG, you just need a shooter/scorer IMO that can finish since he dominates the ball. Mike Miller is also a good passer like you said, so Gordon can fit in well with them IMO. </div> I concur with this as well. I'm not sure how good of a PG Gibson is, because nobody has seen him play a natural PG role in the NBA, but seeing as though he's a good 3pt shooter alongside Lebron, and the fact that it works good with the Cavs, I'd assume the PG role would only require the ability to knock down shots alongside Lebron. I'm pretty sure Gordon can do that. I'm 90% sure Miller can do that, too.
JO still blows - the last two seasons, he's been shooting like 43% from the field, AS A BIG MAN. His career is declining quite precipitously. (cue J_Ray getting defensive) i like that you surrounded bron with shooters though - but your frontcourt is still subpar at best.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (syc514 @ Aug 7 2008, 11:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>JO still blows - the last two seasons, he's been shooting like 43% from the field, AS A BIG MAN. His career is declining quite precipitously. (cue J_Ray getting defensive) i like that you surrounded bron with shooters though - but your frontcourt is still subpar at best.</div> Funny story how JO still averaged 2 blocks a game last year on one leg in 28 minutes. He took the end of the year to get healthy and he's fine now. JO was also the focal point of the Pacers attack when he was playing, but with LeBron, and shooters like Miller & Gordon, it's less pressure for him. I know JO is old (theoretically saying) but he still can be effective for 28-32 minutes a game, the same amount of minutes most of the Pistons starters play. Draft isn't over, so I can still add depth
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J_Ray @ Aug 8 2008, 01:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (syc514 @ Aug 7 2008, 11:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>JO still blows - the last two seasons, he's been shooting like 43% from the field, AS A BIG MAN. His career is declining quite precipitously. (cue J_Ray getting defensive) i like that you surrounded bron with shooters though - but your frontcourt is still subpar at best.</div> Funny story how JO still averaged 2 blocks a game last year on one leg in 28 minutes. He took the end of the year to get healthy and he's fine now. JO was also the focal point of the Pacers attack when he was playing, but with LeBron, and shooters like Miller & Gordon, it's less pressure for him. I know JO is old (theoretically saying) but he still can be effective for 28-32 minutes a game, the same amount of minutes most of the Pistons starters play. Draft isn't over, so I can still add depth </div> Miller was supposed to be my shooter you butt.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DynastYWarrioR6 @ Aug 7 2008, 11:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J_Ray @ Aug 8 2008, 01:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (syc514 @ Aug 7 2008, 11:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>JO still blows - the last two seasons, he's been shooting like 43% from the field, AS A BIG MAN. His career is declining quite precipitously. (cue J_Ray getting defensive) i like that you surrounded bron with shooters though - but your frontcourt is still subpar at best.</div> Funny story how JO still averaged 2 blocks a game last year on one leg in 28 minutes. He took the end of the year to get healthy and he's fine now. JO was also the focal point of the Pacers attack when he was playing, but with LeBron, and shooters like Miller & Gordon, it's less pressure for him. I know JO is old (theoretically saying) but he still can be effective for 28-32 minutes a game, the same amount of minutes most of the Pistons starters play. Draft isn't over, so I can still add depth </div> Miller was supposed to be my shooter you butt. </div> It's ok, supposedly I reached to get him & he's overrated since he's white & all
Wouldn't that make all the asian players overrated? Cause I get that crap all the time when I play ball...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DynastYWarrioR6 @ Aug 8 2008, 12:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wouldn't that make all the asian players overrated? Cause I get that crap all the time when I play ball...</div> lol The only exception is when you're 7 foot or taller Just like the exception for white guys is to have a fro
So for you other late night people, like me...I'll be up til 5AM Pacific... grade my team? It's in my sig.
Definitely has good shooters, scorers, and an aging defensive beast but has no playmakers IMO to make it all happen.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J_Ray @ Aug 8 2008, 03:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Definitely has good shooters, scorers, and an aging defensive beast but has no playmakers IMO to make it all happen.</div> Yeah, I was hoping one would fall to me...my original plan was to draft Terry later and instead get someone like Devin Harris, but Harris was picked two picks before mines.... Then after I got Terry I wanted to make him my shooting guard, until every point guard on my list got taken lol
Looks to me like you've got a defense problem and a sg problem. The former's going to be hard to make up in the later rounds, but you've got some potent and complementary offense in lewis and boozer.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J_Ray @ Aug 8 2008, 01:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Aug 7 2008, 09:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Eric Gordon is not a PG.</div> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Aug 7 2008, 10:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Aug 8 2008, 12:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Eric Gordon is not a PG.</div> I concur with this. Hell, even Mike Miller is more of a passing guard than Eric. </div> But with LeBron, you don't exactly need a passing PG, you just need a shooter/scorer IMO that can finish since he dominates the ball. Mike Miller is also a good passer like you said, so Gordon can fit in well with them IMO. </div> dude... nobody is going to feed lebron the ball... IMO you should add a pure point gaurd lol But I do like Miller... You just need to hope Jermaine is half of what he used to be
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (dino33 @ Aug 8 2008, 01:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J_Ray @ Aug 8 2008, 01:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Aug 7 2008, 09:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Eric Gordon is not a PG.</div> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Aug 7 2008, 10:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Aug 8 2008, 12:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Eric Gordon is not a PG.</div> I concur with this. Hell, even Mike Miller is more of a passing guard than Eric. </div> But with LeBron, you don't exactly need a passing PG, you just need a shooter/scorer IMO that can finish since he dominates the ball. Mike Miller is also a good passer like you said, so Gordon can fit in well with them IMO. </div> dude... nobody is going to feed lebron the ball... IMO you should add a pure point gaurd lol But I do like Miller... You just need to hope Jermaine is half of what he used to be </div> LeBron doesn't need anyone to feed him dude, do the Cavs have someone that feeds him? He's practically the PG of an offense since he's such a great player. It's like saying Steve Nash needs another playmaker or else the Suns offense won't work. Jermaine O'Neal might not be the same player he use to be, but he was a franchise player, top 20 pick a few years ago. Now he's just a good secondary player that will get the job done. He still averaged 2 blocks a game this year on 1 leg, and he's rehabbed his knee now after he tried to comeback too fast last year. Greg Oden & Andrew Bynum both had big time knee surgery and I don't see ppl talking about their health.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J_Ray @ Aug 8 2008, 05:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (dino33 @ Aug 8 2008, 01:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J_Ray @ Aug 8 2008, 01:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Aug 7 2008, 09:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Eric Gordon is not a PG.</div> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Aug 7 2008, 10:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Aug 8 2008, 12:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Eric Gordon is not a PG.</div> I concur with this. Hell, even Mike Miller is more of a passing guard than Eric. </div> But with LeBron, you don't exactly need a passing PG, you just need a shooter/scorer IMO that can finish since he dominates the ball. Mike Miller is also a good passer like you said, so Gordon can fit in well with them IMO. </div> dude... nobody is going to feed lebron the ball... IMO you should add a pure point gaurd lol But I do like Miller... You just need to hope Jermaine is half of what he used to be </div> LeBron doesn't need anyone to feed him dude, do the Cavs have someone that feeds him? He's practically the PG of an offense since he's such a great player. It's like saying Steve Nash needs another playmaker or else the Suns offense won't work. Jermaine O'Neal might not be the same player he use to be, but he was a franchise player, top 20 pick a few years ago. Now he's just a good secondary player that will get the job done. He still averaged 2 blocks a game this year on 1 leg, and he's rehabbed his knee now after he tried to comeback too fast last year. Greg Oden & Andrew Bynum both had big time knee surgery and I don't see ppl talking about their health. </div> Im not saying that the Cavs do have a pure point gaurd, but (through my limited knowledge) Eric Gordon is a shooter, who shoots first, and his primary position is a Shooting Gaurd. Delonte is not a pure point gaurd, but at the same time he isnt a shooting gaurd, he does average 4.5 assits in cleveland. In addition Eric Gordon is a rookie, and now he has to adjust to being a PG, he needs to setup the offense. I do understand that Lebron can play Point Gaurd, but it will be hell easier if he had a pure pg who could pass him the ball so that he doesnt need to play so much ISO. Rather than depending on lebron to pass the ball whenever he is doubled, Lebron should be able to recieve a pass via a play. The problem with JO is more his health than his performace I guess. You are right, by saying he is still capapble of putting up numbers, but his health is still a great concern, despite that he is still a great peice along side LBJ.
