2009 Draft - Warriors Pick #7

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  1. HiRez

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    Yeah, I wouldn't mind taking a chance on Holiday if the Warriors pick at #7. Risky, but who isn't in this draft? You're right about the defense, we need it desperately. But this is Don Nelson and the Golden State Warriors we're talking about. "Where defensive mindsets go to die."...that should be this board's motto. I really wonder what Holiday would do under Nelson.

    I've heard the rumors about Williams too. Also wouldn't mind that pick but definitely not at #7, only if they trade down in the #15-#25 range where Williams should be.
     
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    After reading about his interview with my buddy Kawakami (see Kawakami's blog) I really like Jennings, his maturity from playing in Europe. He's got good length and he's a PG.

    Holiday is a real question mark, when I watched him at UCLA he did not do much. I did not think Westbrook was a PG either but he did pretty well for the Thunder this year.
     
  3. Run BJM

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    Flynn and Jennings worked out for us today and went against each other most of the workout. There's no official word but TK speculates that Jennings got the upper hand in the workout. This is more impressive considering this was Jennings very first workout while Flynn has already done several and most prospects say their first workout was their worst. TK said Nellie and Riley seemed a lot more interested in Jennings. Also according to Rusty Simmons Riley spent 3 weeks in Italy to look at BJ:
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/warriors/detail?blogid=39&entry_id=41607

    Congrats to Monta on Monta Jr. lol. Seems weird that they would visit him though. Seems more likely that a visit = trade or something but who knows.
     
  4. HiRez

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    I'm going to make a bold prediction. The Warriors pick will be one of Jennings, Evans, Flynn, DeRozan, Curry, Holiday, or Williams. :rolleyes:
     
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    That's interesting, the relationship between Riley and Jennings. Maybe they have some agreement? I mean he didn't participate in the EuroCamp but comes to the US first to workout with Golden State.
     
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    FWIW Jennings and Flynn both headed to Sac for another workout the next day, I think Holiday was at that one too. Its possible the W's were there too because IIRC DX reported a few teams would be at that workout and last year GS scouted Jason Thompson in Sac.
     
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    I think the Warriors should go for Jennings or DeRozan.

    I would lean toward DeRozan if the Warriors are able to get a PG like Hinrich for the right price. I'd like the core of Hinrich/Ellis/DeRozan/Randolph/Biedrins. That's a good defensive squad with a lot of athleticism and ability.

    I would hope that Crawford(I know they don't really want him back though), Azubuike, Wright, and Belinelli for Hinrich and Tim Thomas would work. But I am not sure. It seems like a trade that would have to involve swapping draft picks which could possibly take us out of position to get DeRozan.

    If it is Jennings then Jennings/Ellis/Jackson/Randolph/Biedrins has promise as well. For more immediate help, it may be better to have a younger vet PG come in anyway.
     
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    The more I think about Jennings, the more of a bad feeling I'm getting about him. In addition to his immature punk comments last week about Rubio, he's just striking me as yet another undisciplined player who is going to do whatever he wants more often than doing what the team needs him to do. In a way that makes him appropriate for Nellieball, but this team needs discipline and leadership (and needs to look past Nellie's retirement), and I'm not getting that from Jennings, despite his skill.
     
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    I agree. He's been acting very much like a kid. I guess he even said that he was just trying to get people interested in the Summer League with some of his comments.

    I was also reading somewhere that Bobby Knight was pushing Portland to not take Michael Jordan because Knight who was coaching him in the Olympic team said Jordan was too selfish (at least to play with the other good guards the team had). Selfishness and immaturity are two very different things I guess. But how much should it be taken into consideration when you deal with such talented players? I am not saying Jennings is MJ. But it at least got me thinking.

    But no doubt in my mind, if we do get Jennings, Nelson will be on his butt a lot. It could make the whole thing with Randolph last year appear to have been nothing compared to how much Nelson will have to discipline this guy. This is actually one of the things I like about having Nelson around. He is good at discipling players compared to previous coaches like Mike Montgomery or whomever. You need those type of coaches, like Phil Jackson (MJ, Kobe), Papovich (Parker, Ginoboli, Duncan more or less), and I'd say add Nelson in that kind of group too.

    I agree the team needs discipline and leadership (particularly on the court by the players). I think the Warriors should try to get that player more through free agency/offseason trades than through the draft. When you try to get that guy in the draft you'll probably kick yourself in the butt when the talented/skilled player actually turns out to be a star and the other is just the mediocre player.
     
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    Mock Draft 5.0 has Warriors taking Stephen Curry

    Analysis: The Warriors don't have a traditional point guard, but they might have several to choose from, including Jonny Flynn, Brandon Jennings and Curry.

    Flynn is the purest point guard of the bunch, but he lacks size and shooting ability. Jennings has the most upside and was very impressive in a workout at Golden State, but he's a ways away. If the Warriors are after someone who could come in and deliver right away, Curry would be the guy. His versatility and shooting ability paired with Ellis make him seem like a must for the Warriors.

    At the same time, I'm hearing significant buzz that Jordan Hill could be the pick if the team ends up trading away Brandan Wright. Louisville's Terrence Williams is also high on the board at Golden State. No. 7 seems too high for him, but don't be surprised if the Warriors are willing to do a trade down to get him.
     
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    http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draf...draft2009/insider/news/story?page=09DraftBuzz
     
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    Golden State has long been enamored with Brandon Jennings at No. 7, but league sources say the Warriors are considering Wake Forest forward James Johnson there as well. Few teams would have Johnson that high on their draft boards
     
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    I know we are going to get Jordan Hill. Just my gut feeling.
     
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    nbadraft.net has Hill falling to the Warriors at # 7.

    My top three gets for the Warriors would be: Griffin, Harden and Rubio in that order. I'm getting cold feet about Rubio because of his contract situation and hearing about his weaknesses. I'd go out and drink some Mumms.

    At # 7, I'd be thrilled with Hill or Tyreke. I'm not as sure about Flynn. I'd go out and pick up some Newcastle or Red Hook.

    If we go what???!!!???!!! or WTF, then I'll go get the Tylenol.
     
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    A man with a plan. Nice. :cheers:

    What if the WTF? Is a good thing though? Like WTF we just got Chris Bosh!
     
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    Update from Insider ...

     
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    ESPN Draft Buzz Update ...

     
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    Although I don't want the Warriors to go with Monta-PG, if they do, it makes sense to take Curry. Assuming it's a starting lineup of Monta, Jackson, Maggette, Randolph and Biedrins. Going with Curry, he can be a 6th/7th man, growing into an instant scoring role off the bench replacing Maggette or playing as the ballhandler if he's going for Monta. Thing is, I just do not see Nellie hanging onto that lineup very long.

    Although I think Hill is a decent player, I do agree that it's harder to fit him into the lineup in any way. I mean, he'll be better than Rob Kurz or Davidson, and probably be ahead of Wright. I still think he's worth drafting over several of the other point guards aside from Curry.
     
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    I don't think Law is going to have any great influence over who we draft. He is probably the next Marcus Williams for this team. But then again, if the difference between getting Curry and Hill is very small then maybe he pushes the team to get Hill. But his stats are horrible and certainly Speedy isn't really a Nelson point either.
     
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    I pretty much agree with Clif's assessment. Law got no time on the Hawks, who had a pressing need to have a reliable PG after Bibby and really needed someone to step up so they could figure out their future plans with his free agency. No one did step up, despite everyone expecting Law too. Law is not very quick or fast, not at a good penetrator, and basically makes up for it with the ability to keep the flow of the game going. However, he's not much of a threat personally - he shoots ok, but he takes bad shots, though that "shot" from his college days always reminds me that he's got that clutch factor. He's got size, but he's not consistent on defense. He's kind of like an extremely crappy version of Derek Fisher, or there's probably a better comparison, but that's the first guy who came to mind.

    I really don't mind Curry or Hill or any of the PG, as I can't get a good read to denounce or support any pick with 100% enthusiasm. Hill or the PG will definitely end up sitting alot. The players that may succeed in this system are Curry, Flynn, or if we happen draft a bigger guard, and at best they may log some backup minutes depending on how impressive they are.
     

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