Stomp- How is everyone in the country disagreeing with the fact that Oregon and USC are the Pac-12 for the next few years? Explain.... would love to hear this!
technically you said that "right now" and for the forseeable future, Oregon and USC are the Pac 12. well "right now" Stanford might have something to say about it ps I dont think he was saying everyone in the country is disagreeing with you... I think he was pointing out that you said everyone in the country would agree with you, yet there are people who who might not agree with you in this small community. (just my interpretation)
So on a Duck Board there are people who don't think Oregon and USC ARE the Pac-12 for the foreseeable future? K! I'm pretty sure the Ducks have owned it the last few years and USC before that and USC seems to be coming back to form... Maybe I'm missing a school and stanford escaped USC and we blasted them... I don't put them on these two schools level.... with Luck gone they'll be hurtling with Cal, UCLA, AZ again next year.... On a side note I'm glad my home town could give the Ducks a Long kid! He's got some good size!
Oregon is the obvious favorite to win the Pac 12 next year. But with Kalil gone and Barkley likely to follow, USC is going to take a step back. And with their recruiting sanctions just starting, I don't expect them to be at the top of the conference again for a while... the future is brighter at both Cal and Stanford. Thats my 2 cents of prognostications STOMP
USC and Stanford will be competitive - even without Barkley and Luck. Cal could be dangerous - if Maynard can get it together. UW returns the majority of their offense but should continue to struggle on defense. Utah could surprise a few teams next year with good core players returning and a strong 5 wins in 7 games to wrap up the reg season. Oregon will be favored to win the Pac, again, and return to a BCS game. We have a weak OOC schedule and if everything aligns, it could be a wild ride. Unfortunately, we open with three home games vs non-BCS qual teams (Arkansas St, Fresno St, Tenn Tech) - it just doesn't bode well for national respect. I believe we have Stanford at home and our road games included USC, Cal, ASU, and lowly OSU and WSU. 14-0 (including Pac12 Champ game)? Why not! Up until a few years ago, the Pac was traditionally won by the most experienced QB. I can't wait to see DT next year.
You think he'll get the start with being new in a complicated system? I see him in the rotation but def starters as: Clanton - 6'5" 300# SR - 1V York - 6'5" 295# SR - 3V Grasu - 6'3" 290# - 1V Cody - 6'5" 305# - 3V Jake Fisher (FR) 6'6" 285# (runs a 4.95 40) has been playing good football in respectable PT. If Long starts, he's going to have to earn it the hard way.
Espn reports that Buckner is going to announce his decision at the Marines game on Jan 3... and that he's no longer gonna visit UCLA (after canceling his Cal trip last weekend) . I think we've got this one in the bag... Ed O.
to further point out the likelyhood here, UCLA Cal & Oregon are his final 3 w/Buckner thats 6 guys for the DLine in this class. Castro, Carriger & Buckner on the outside & Bair, Balducci & Daniel inside at DTackle. the future STOMP
So... good OL and WR classes last year, a deep DL class this year. Stud RBs last, this, and next years... what do we need to top off this class? Just the best available prospects? Ed O.
another big tough & talented WR would be nice... Darreus Rodgers is scheduled to visit Jan 20th. Theres also been talk of Texas commit Thomas Johnson initiating contact with UO coaches lately. Another TE is probably likely too another OLineman or two would also round out the roster, preferably both a mauling big guard and an agile tackle. The top get for me at any position would be Kyle Murphy. But basically you're right about the roster being pretty full and there being no positions in real need of filling. They've 6-7 scholarship spots left which will probably go to the top kids who want them regardless of position... I wouldn't be surprised at all to see them not fill every one of those spots. STOMP
A big hitting strong safety would be a nice addition, as would a traditional NFL-esque LB in the Casey Matthews' mold. I love Michael Clay, but he's undersized. Maybe Boseko Lokombo can put on 20 lbs. over the next two years? Maybe find a Kiko Alonso in terms of build, but without being a head case?
It would be my guess that unless Long comes into camp and bombs they didn't bring this guy in to back up. He is said to have 1st round talent so I definitely expect him to be the starter. LT: Long LG: York C: Grasu RG: Cody RT: Fisher Swing Tackle: Clanton Swing Guard: Stevens That's what I expect it to be, we'll see though.
Hmm... maybe Ken Ekanem (Oregon's in his final four along with UNC, ND and Va Tech). Or maybe Seth Jacobs? He's a little light but reportedly has the frame to add significant mass. Scout has him at "high" interest level with the Ducks. Ed O.
Rodgers is a USC committ... I guess we flipped one last year, but for some reason I always doubt that anyone is going to flip, ever, which makes me all but ignore commits. I guess it's good I'm not in charge of recruiting, huh? Maybe Pharaoh Brown? Murphy would be a good get. I know he's looking at Stanford (who just had Nick Davidson commit yesterday) and USC (which has already got an OL recruit or two this year after getting SIX in 2011)... it's interesting that he took such an early visit with Oregon and still has three OVs left. Ed O.
Papa G hit it right on the head... we need an absolute terror that WR's and TE's are hearing footsteps everytime they touch the ball! Ronnie Lott in a Duck Helmet would be nice! HAHA!
I think that the thought of a stud safety is great... but we've already added two safeties (RDaniels and EAmoako), and I wonder if it's realistic to recruit a third. In any event, we've offered Shaq Thompson (as we all know) and Trae Elston at safety, too, but both of those guys seem like longshots so a safety would have to come out of nowhere, it seems. Ed O.
Deep at OL/DT and next year could be the first in a long time where there aren't concern at DT. Three OL's coming of RS will be good: Yruretagoyena - 6'5" 295# - Greatwood said the kid is physical and learning fast Johnstone - 6'6" 275# (Rivals 16th best OL in nation) Euscher - 6'7" 295# - local kid / 3 sport athlete in HS DE is a bit of a concern because after Washington and Jordan there isn't a lot of depth or experience. Rover is also a concern. Replacing Pleasant will hurt. Jackson is good, but his size and aggressiveness is in question. Out of all positions, this is where I'm most concerned because we have several DT's we can slide over to DE. LB position could possibly be the best in the PAC with Clay, Lokombo and Alonso. Malone adds depth and we have verbals from two strong kids. I'm not concerned with WR at all. Hoffman, Huff, Vaughn, Hawkins, Murphy - return and will be stronger and sharper. Thomas is Thomas and will see time. The guy people are excited about is Vaughn. He's 6'2", 195#, four start JUCO who will return for his SR season with a better grasp of responsibilities. People are also high on Kelley 6'2" (4* ESPN)- coming out his RS, is getting a lot of praise. Throw in Blackmon, Dungy and Sumler... Wow. I've heard Bennett is just too good to keep off the field and will see time at WR/Slot. With Thomas, Bennett and Mariota at QB...could we also see Mariota and Haines getting some WR time? We actually might be TOO deep, lol. We're going to be good and deep at WR. Sometimes fans forget how valuable one year of experience and time in the system is. Example: Maehl only caught 53 passes and 6 TD's his JR year. He came back for a huge SR season. This year we have three receivers who have matched Maehl's JR TD catches, one receiver who is one shy and two of those are FR. A lot of kids with PT and an additional year in the system - WR should be a strong position and I think we'll see two of three WR's step up to have a strong 2012 season with balanced receptions and TD's and not one key go to guy. As Oregon's offense develops and expands, I think we'll see more balanced spreading of the ball at RB and WR. De'Anthony Thomas 13 42 571 43.9 13.6 69 9 Lavasier Tuinei 13 40 441 33.9 11.0 55 8 David Paulson 10 30 428 42.8 14.3 34 6 Josh Huff 10 29 416 41.6 14.3 59 2 LaMichael James 11 17 210 19.1 12.4 44 1 Rahsaan Vaughn 7 14 184 26.3 13.1 46 1 Colt Lyerla 5 7 147 29.4 21.0 39 5 Justin Hoffman 5 10 133 26.6 13.3 33 0 Kenjon Barner 11 15 132 12.0 8.8 31 2 Daryle Hawkins 3 5 102 34.0 20.4 51 1 Will Murphy 3 3 37 12.3 12.3 24 0 Eric Dungy 2 2 34 17.0 17.0 22 1 Nick Musgrove 1 1 8 8.0 8.0 8 0 Tra Carson 8 1 6 0.8 6.0 6 0 Ben Butterfield 1 2 5 5.0 2.5 3 0 But, then again, what do I know...lol!
I'm telling ya we need to recruit into Florida... Great Secondary players grow off trees down there.... They play two terms of football every year in high school and the difference between a DB, CORNER or Safety that play at FSU, FLorida or Miami and playing at FAI or FIU? What a .1 of a second? We can coach those kids up here and be in great shape.
Loko is 6'3", 235#. He's an inch taller than Matthews and the exact weight now as a SO as Matthews played as a SR. He picked Luck for 6 and changed that game - his second pick six of 2011. goducks.com reports, "Led all linebackers with a 330-pound power clean, a 2.84-second electronic 20-yard and a 4.84-second electronic 40-yard during winter conditioning." Baring injury, I think he'll be one of the most feared LB's and he's only a SO. Clay is short but has 77 tackles/42 solo, 3 sacks, 2 INTS and even missed PT with an injury. He is one of the top performing LB's in the Pac. Not the hardest hitter but he's always around the ball and his football-sense is amazing. I hear he's a great kid and leader in practice and should return for a monster SR year. Alonso has some dependency issues but appears to have his head on straight lately. He's 6'4", 240# (typical NFL build). He was one of the few players who played his heart out against USC - 6 tackles. He's finishing 2011 strong with 12 tackles and 1 int in the last three games. I think he 'gets it' now that if he messes up again, he's probably gone. If he spends his off-season in the weight and film room instead of the bar and he has the potential to be one of the best LB's in the nation. He's already a great hitter and goducks reports, "posted the top mark among linebackers and third-best overall with a 380-pound bench press during winter testing." Our LB's are going to be awesome in 2012.
