Gotcha. I hold out hope for Babbitt and Nolan. Heck, we have a fistfull of players who are still in the tryout period. Nolan Smith (in the beginning still), Batum (nearing the end of his), Elliot Williams and Babbitt (in the middle), JJ Hickson even. There's just too many moving parts outside of their direct influence (coach, GM, playing style, older players giving up, Felton sucking, Crawford sucking, etc.) to give them anything other than an "In Progress" grade.
Okay, can somebody post Hollinger's PAST "big boards" so that we can compare? I do know that he had Batum ranked incredibly low, and in general has trouble with international players.
2011 1. Kyrie Irving 2. Derrick Williams 3. Tristan Thompson 4. Jonas Valanciunas 5. Kawhi Leonard 6. Enes Kanter 7. Kemba Walker 8. Tobias Harris 9. Alec Burks 10. Jordan Hamilton 11. Bismack Biyombo 12. Brandon Knight 13. Tyler Honeycutt 14. Jon Leuer 15. Nikola Vucevic 16. Chris Singleton 17. Jan Vesely 18. Klay Thompson 19. Norris Cole 20. Iman Shumpert 21. Nikola Mirotic 22. Jimmer Fredette 23. Donatas Motiejunas 24. Greg Smith 25. Marcus Morris 26. JaJuan Johnson 27. Markieff Morris 28. Davis Bertans 29. Kenneth Faried 30. Jeremy Tyler 31. Jordan Williams 32. Bojan Bogdanovic 33. Darius Morris 34. Giorgi Shermadini 35. Reggie Jackson 36. Rick Jackson 37. Brad Wanamaker 38. Damian Saunders 39. Nolan Smith 40. Malcolm Thomas 41. Travis Leslie 42. Trey Thompkins 43. Malcolm Lee 44. Charles Jenkins 45. Cory Joseph 46. E'Twaun Moore 47. Josh Selby 48. Jacob Pullen 49. Justin Harper 50. Jimmy Butler 51. Matt Howard 52. Jamie Skeen 53. Jereme Richmond 54. Keith Benson 55. D.J. Kennedy 56. Marshon Brooks 57. Isaiah Thomas 58. Andrew Goudelouck 59. Lavoy Allen 60. Shelvin Mack
This despite the "red flags" on Drummond should, if anything, pull him DOWN the rankings. In other words "ignore my numbers system, because even I know it's bullshit"
2010 1 DeMarcus Cousins Kentucky 16.14 2. Evan Turner Ohio State 14.79 3. John Wall Kentucky 14.68 4. Greg Monroe Georgetown 14.39 5. Derrick Favors Georgia Tech 13.98 6. Xavier Henry Kansas 13.52 7. Luke Babbitt Nevada 13.35 8. Al-Farouq Aminu Wake Forest 13.30 9. Wes Johnson Syracuse 13.03 10. Greivis Vasquez Maryland 12.97 11. Sylven Landesberg Virginia 12.52 12. Omar Samhan Saint Mary's 12.47 13. Damion James Texas 12.44 14. Daniel Orton Kentucky 12.15 15. James Anderson Oklahoma State 11.98 16. Paul George Fresno State 11.87 17. Gordon Hayward Butler 11.87 18. Manny Harris Michigan 11.80 19. Jeff Foote Cornell 11.71 20. Darington Hobson New Mexico 11.69 21. Eric Bledsoe Kentucky 11.66 22. Marqus Blakely Vermont 11.58 23. Luke Harangody Notre Dame 11.37 24. Jordan Crawford Xavier 11.32 25. Da'Sean Butler West Virginia 11.26 26. Jon Scheyer Duke 11.20 27. Devin Ebanks West Virginia 11.16 28. Tiny Gallon Oklahoma 11.13 29. Quincy Pondexter Washington 11.08 30. Larry Sanders VCU 11.07 31. Armon Johnson Nevada 10.98 32. Brian Zoubek Duke 10.96 33. Aubrey Coleman Houston 10.91 34. Jeremy Lin Harvard 10.87 35. Mikhail Torrance Alabama 10.84 36 Cole Aldrich Kansas 10.83 37 Patrick Patterson Kentucky 10.79 40 Willie Warren Oklahoma 10.71 45 Avery Bradley Texas 10.42 50 Ekpe Udoh Baylor 10.03 54 Ed Davis North Carolina 9.88 60 Terrico White Mississippi 9.68 62 Hassan Whiteside Marshall 9.65 65 Craig Brackins Iowa State 9.56 68 Solomon Alabi Florida State 9.52
Drummond just doesn't have the personality of a star. He's a HUGE risk. I don't think we should gamble with him. I'd probably take Barnes over him.
2009 1. Ty Lawson North Carolina 16.34 2. Blake Griffin Oklahoma 16.21 3. Tyreke Evans Memphis 15.02 4. Austin Daye Gonzaga 14.24 5. Stephen Curry Davidson 14.18 6. Nick Calathes Florida 13.66 7. DeJuan Blair Pittsburgh 13.56 8. Danny Green North Carolina 13.28 9. Jonny Flynn Syracuse 12.99 10. James Harden Arizona State 12.97 11. Hasheem Thabeet Connecticut 12.90 12. Earl Clark Louisville 12.88 13. Jrue Holiday UCLA 12.73 14. Jeff Teague Wake Forest 12.50 15. Gerald Henderson Duke 12.17 16. Paul Delaney UAB 11.85 17. Aaron Jackson Duquesne 11.83 18. Darren Collison UCLA 11.80 19. Terrence Williams Louisville 11.80 20. Leo Lyons Missouri 11.53 21. Eric Maynor VCU 11.35 22. John Bryant Santa Clara 11.30 23. DeMarre Carroll Missouri 11.18 24. Tyler Hansbrough North Carolina 11.11 25. Wayne Ellington North Carolina 11.04 26. Jordan Hill Arizona 10.97 28. B.J. Mullens Ohio State 10.81 30. James Johnson Wake Forest 10.63 31. Chase Budinger Arizona 10.51 45. Derrick Brown Xavier 9.55 48. DaJuan Summers Georgetown 9.38 51. Jodie Meeks Kentucky 9.35 52. Sam Young Pitt 9.34 54. DeMar DeRozan USC 9.26 62. Toney Douglas Florida State 8.56 68. Patrick Mills Saint Mary's 8.36 83. Jack McClinton Miami 6.64
2008 Michael Beasley 19.19 Kansas State Kevin Love 17.80 UCLA Darrell Arthur 15.82 Kansas Marreese Speights 15.02 Florida D.J. Augustin 14.88 Texas Derrick Rose 14.69 Memphis Joe Alexander 14.58 West Virginia Brook Lopez 14.21 Stanford Mario Chalmers 14.03 Kansas Jerryd Bayless 14.03 Arizona Roy Hibbert 14.02 Georgetown Kosta Koufos 13.32 Ohio State Donte Greene 13.17 Syracuse Darnell Jackson 13.17 Kansas DeAndre Jordan 13.17 Texas A&M
I was wondering about Marquis Teague anyway, before I saw his gaudy rating above (although not gaudy enough to bump him above 15 on his board). Usually I'm not a fan of PGs who aren't really PGs, but the trend in the NBA has been to make jet-quick guards useful anyway - see Avery Bradley and Eric Bledsoe. Also Teague's brother. Anyone care to comment? Does he play defense? Did he help Memphis [edit: duh, Kentucky] win the title or was it more or less in spite of him? I hate Calipari, but he's certainly had a slew of top PGs go through his programs, and Teague is the only
Chad Ford @chadfordinsider Just filed to ESPN: Sources: Jared Sullinger medically red-flagged by some NBA doctors for back issues
You mean the PER number? I'm not sure what other numbers there are? The 16.54 or whatever is their projected PER's
