When you step back and think about it, is the whole weak conference thing the only thing holding Lillard back from going top 5? Because you look at his stats from not only this year, but his three prior, and they're still pretty as decent(20-4-4 his soph/junior year, and 12-4-3 his fresh, [ PERs: 28, 25,17]). His combine #s are great for his position. He's got a terrific mindset and good character. He's got strengths that should translate well into the NBA with more spacing and hand checking. No significant injury concerns, etc. Has to be Weber State that's holding him back.
Of course you're assuming he'd maintain his stats, say, playing the the ACC/Pac10. If you look at what he's done outside his conference I'd say the chances are slim to none.
Yeah, but there's too much around that # that could be misleading. I'm asking because I honestly don't know. 91st percentile for all college basketball players? If that's the case, I'm not impressed. 91st percentile for all college PG's doesn't sound that great either. So I guess when I get a chance, I'll have to do some research on this.
He would have maintained his stats in the Pac-10 (it's really Pac-12 now, though). The Pac-12 was weak. ACC is arguably another story.
To me Lillard's combine #'s suggests he has the athleticism and measurables to play with anyone. And a note struggling a little bit against tougher opponents. Lillard was the only focus of those teams. Shut down Lillard, win easily. Lillard having weak teammates hurts him and that can't go unsaid.
That's what I'm trying to highlight. If Lillard had done better in those select few games against better competition (and tbh, after looking at the gamelog, there were: 1) hardly any games against better competition (so lack of an opportunity to showcase himself), and 2) the bad games were hardly that bad.) If he went to a bigger school and put up the somewhat similar stats, would he not go top 5? To summarize, what I'm trying to say is that the sample size is way too small to base anything off those few games, and that although you can place some emphasis on his competition, too much emphasis might have you missing out on a very good player.
As far as a low release point Lillard seems to release the ball from the same spot Ty Lawson does (although higher obviously because he's taller) I don't think it'll be a big issue. It's all about creating separation.
I don't know why I'm bothering to ask... but I will.... Anyone hear Quick on Canzano's show just a few minutes ago?
lol Frst off, Clownzans show.... Seconed, Quick... guys in here have far better takes, hell even Fez..
Geez, I leave work and the whole forum starts fighting. Great post rr7. That was good write up on three players. Anyone else surprised Rivers compared to Wall?
Canzano is shit Quick at least dresses up his opinions and presents them well (whether they're true or not). I don't mind listening to him.
I really liked his mention of Marshall in isolations, and using his body on smaller players, shielding the ball. Sounded an awful lot like Miller. People say Marshall won't be able to beat his guy off the dribble, and he will be given space because of his shot, but I think his shot is better than advertised, and he doesn't necessarily need the space if he is more posting up his opponent than beating by him.
I listened, but didn't get a whole lot out of it. At one point he said he didn't think there'd be much activity, and then said he felt like he had a little KP in him, and could be active on draft night, so I dunno. Sorry, I was half listening, an dnothing super exciting popped up to pique my interest. Said they like Barnes, he thinks, but that he'll be gone, and feels like it'll be Lillard.