2013 Official NBA Off-season Movement & Rumors (Merged threads)

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  1. OregonHuskerMan

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    Vucevic and Harkless aren't a bad haul to be honest.

    And none of those other trades really affect the Magic all that much. (It was also pure speculation they'd depart with Gasol AND Bynum - plus, Bynum sat out a year - so it would've been for an aging Gasol)

    2 of Joe JOhnson, Smith and Horford is ---- no thank you.

    Really, the deal they made is better than any other deal LONG term than any except Steph Curry.
     
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    He always frustrated me with his style of play, given his size. Physically, the guy's a monster, but it seems like he shies away from physical contact on both ends of the floor. He's definitely capable of physical, low-post play, and he's really got great offensive instincts, but he can tend to fall in love with his mid-range jumper a lot and seldom plays with his back to the basket. Like you said though, he's got a good mid-range jumper, one of the best in the league for his size... so that's not necessarily a bad thing... I just get frustrated watching a guy that big play so soft.

    Defensively, he used to get such a bad rep in Philly for not trying and just being an overall horrible defender, but I will say that we didn't see much of that in Memphis. The effort was definitely there for the most part, and maybe we were a little overly critical of his defensive weaknesses because of the players he was surrounded with, but he did seem a bit aloof at times and got consistently lost on rotations. Still, based on the reviews from the Philly fans when we initial acquired him, I'd say he's gotten better on that end of the floor and will probably continue to... he's just not the brightest crayon in the box sometimes on the defensive end.

    At the end of the day, depending on what you're paying for him, it's not a bad signing. He's capable of huge offensive outbursts, he's still only 25, and while he always frustrated me, I've got a lot friends and family that were really pissed off when we shipped him off to Cleveland. Hell, my brother still maintains we should have started him.

    Also, I remember a lot of Philly fans taking shots at his character and effort when we acquired him, but I never saw any of that. Like I said earlier, he always seemed to bring intensity every night, and I never heard anything about him being trouble in the locker room... from all indications, he was a good teammate.... he's just sorta dumber than a box of rocks, which showed up every now and then when he'd get lost defensively, but I don't think that was for lack of trying.
     
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    However, Chicago won't part with two All-Star forwards and a young seven-footer unless Howard commits to signing long-term with the club, which he's given no indication he'll do. Thus, while the teams have spoken, "there's 'no type of serious discussions' going on," Berger says, citing a source.

    Orlando's efforts to increase interest in Howard from teams not on his so-called wish list have failed, Berger says, because there aren't enough games remaining on the schedule following the trade deadline for a team Howard's yet to approve to convince him to stay.
     
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    But they would be in a much better "tanking position" and salary if they made the deal and he bolted anyway. Remember you endorsing full rebuild and tank mode if your team doesn't compete for a title?
     
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    Tanking wins championships.

    In reality.
     
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    Then it would have been a "no brainer" to take that deal without Howard committing to resigning. They would be in a much better position now.
     
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    hahahahahahahahaha

    You are funny.
     
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    Just using your funny logic. Makes it seem terrible when your homer bias is tested huh?
     
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    You are still being funny.
     
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    Why? 2014 is the best draft class since LBJ. You said it yourself that tanking wins championships "in reality". There is a big concern if Rose will ever be the same player he once was. Noah may bolt because his contract is up. All these things you expressed about the Blazers seriously applies to the Bulls. Instead, the Bulls are thinking about Amnestying Boozer and getting nothing in return. Deng is still a health concern. You could have been in good shape financially and in a good opportunity to win the lotto.
     
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    When I say "in reality" it means in YOUR hallucinations.

    Deng played 75 games last season, almost 39 minutes per. Led the league in minutes per game even.

    Health concern? LOL.
     
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    Just gets injured when it matters most. Face it Denny; your "tanking philosophy" only applies to other teams because it doesn't effect yours. Your wishy washy debating style is easy to bunk.
     
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    I don't think it's a good idea to tank. I value wins and making the playoffs. You do have to play the games, otherwise the Blazers are 82 game winners in your hallucinations. Or was that they really won "40+" last season?
     
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    90-0.
     
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    and now back to regularly scheduled broadcast....

     
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    David Aldridge ‏@daldridgetnt 4s
    Monta Ellis deciding between Atlanta, Dallas, per source. Also interested in Sacramento but Mbah a Moute deal may take Kings out of mix.
     
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    Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 10m
    The Orlando Magic and Hedo Turkoglu are progressing on contract buyout talks, league sources tell Y! Sports.

    Pinwheel Empire ‏@pinwheelempire 5m
    Seriously, Hedo turning down the Blazers might have been one of the best things that's happened to this team. #ripcity #blazers
     
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