2013 Official NBA Off-season Movement & Rumors (Merged threads)

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  1. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    100% correct and absolutely worth a large 14 mil contract. What I am arguing is Houston can't just send Asik. They need to send Asik and around 5 more mil in contract to make it happen. Hickson could be an even swap.
     
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    Your forgetting Josh Smith is an elite defender and Hickson is one of the worst.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    That was a single season, which is also a pretty good candidate for the outlier rule.
     
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    yes but is he worth probably an extra 7-8 mil more PER YR than JJ? and IMO he is a worse fit
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    So Houston has zero pgs now?
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    That's for Daryl Morey to decide. The cost/production curve is not linear; going from average to good to great gets geometrically more expensive at each step most of the time.
     
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    Smith is an elite defender at the 3. He's decidedly mediocre at the 4. Opponent production at PF for Smith and Hickson were very similar last year.

    Being that he's only 24 years old, it's also a good candidate for a "breakout season".
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Patrick Beverly
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    You are forgetting we did Houston a favor. That definitely accounts for something.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    I guess anything is possible, but given his horrendous defense and "garbage man" skillset, I'm not sure I'd bank on that. In any case, if you want to know how valuable Hickson is around the league just scroll through the various sports news sites and see how many times he's mentioned. 30 teams and lot of them with cap room don't seem to be all that enamored.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    People don't do deals out of goodwill. When two similar deals are on the table maybe, but in this case Smith is clearly a better haul.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    That's not how this works.
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    It does if olshey said "we want asik" and they did this in good faith. If gorver said okay and screwed us; then word will get out and he gets black listed.
     
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    Maybe. But, Josh Smith's lack of a jumper really causes problems on the offensive end. How will they fit 3 guys in the paint? (Harden/Howard and Smith does what?) And there is the problem of Salary, of which Smith will command a contract probably double what JJ will get. MAX for Harden, MAX for Smith and a SUPER MAX for Howard. No way they have those contracts. Only NY and LA with their crazy TV deals can do that.

    I think Josh Smith is not a great fit for a Howard/Houston team.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    You're reaching.
     
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    WAS doesn't have the bird rights necessary to do a sign n trade w/Webster.
     
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    You're black listed.
     
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    What if it was guaranteed with a wink if Howard signs?
     
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    They don't need bird right. They are under cap.
     
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