2016 NBA Draft mega thread

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Fez Hammersticks, Oct 14, 2015.

  1. Strenuus

    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2013
    Messages:
    48,698
    Likes Received:
    33,744
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The Damelight Zone! :MARIS61:
     
    BlazerCaravan likes this.
  2. KeepOnRollin

    KeepOnRollin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2010
    Messages:
    11,472
    Likes Received:
    5,638
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    North Idaho
    We might still get bottom 5 but too late to be tanking (already). Other teams have been blatantly doing it from the start and might not win more then 7 games from here on out.
     
  3. HolyBackboard

    HolyBackboard 2 Hot 2 Stop It

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2015
    Messages:
    718
    Likes Received:
    1,589
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Location:
    Rip City
    That's the beauty of the Lottery system. We don't need to be awful, just pretty bad to hit it big. I'd be more than fine heading into the Lottery sitting at 6th or 7th.

    There's just no way we'll end up worse than the Sixers, Nets, and Lakers.
     
  4. handiman

    handiman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    5,517
    Likes Received:
    3,623
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I'm not in favor of it, but if we really locked in on someone like Simmons as the future cornerstone, the smart play would perhaps be to trade Lillard to a team like Philly or Boston with lots of shots at the top pick, in the process making us bad enough this year to really increase the ping pong ball odds. With how similar CJ and Lillard are, I think the team will eventually have to make a choice between the two, so why not sell high now with our best asset and retool for a couple years down the line?

    I know, it's stupid. You can't get rid of a young all-star, great teammate, leader, and spokesman, and true ironman, no matter how bad his defense or limited his pure playmaker upside are.
     
  5. Strenuus

    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2013
    Messages:
    48,698
    Likes Received:
    33,744
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Uhh... trade CJ, not Lillard. That's just a no-brainer in this situation.
     
    Eastoff and Orion Bailey like this.
  6. KeepOnRollin

    KeepOnRollin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2010
    Messages:
    11,472
    Likes Received:
    5,638
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    North Idaho
    Trade neither unless it is a no-brainer (probably only 2 no-brainers for Lillard - and it isn't happening).

    You have been on the trade CJ kick far too early. Earlier then the so called haters even. It won't happen as long as Olshey is GM unless some other GM has a brain fart and gives us a super-star.
     
    Orion Bailey likes this.
  7. Strenuus

    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2013
    Messages:
    48,698
    Likes Received:
    33,744
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I only said in that situation. I also fear that CJ is our Monta.

    Would I rather have CJ? Yes. But, for the right price, I'd trade him. Still figuring out that right price though... (which is a good indication of how I feel about CJ. I actually really like him.)

    In the case of trades vs. CJ and Lillard.. Trading CJ is the right answer, all the time. That's what I am getting at.
     
    Eastoff, Orion Bailey and TBpup like this.
  8. KeepOnRollin

    KeepOnRollin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2010
    Messages:
    11,472
    Likes Received:
    5,638
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    North Idaho
    I just can't envision that ever being a scenario.....

    And yes, I would trade CJ as well but it would take a lot from the other team. Maybe that is me being greedy but of course I want to win a trade. It would have to be a big game player.
     
  9. Strenuus

    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2013
    Messages:
    48,698
    Likes Received:
    33,744
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Agreed on these!!!!
     
  10. trailblazer18

    trailblazer18 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2014
    Messages:
    4,067
    Likes Received:
    4,954
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Iowa
    Monta Ellis + Fillers got Golden State Andrew Bogut and an older Stephen Jackson. Would you take a Bogut caliber player for CJ? Bogut is definitely a key piece for Golden State, but not a cornerstone.
     
  11. KeepOnRollin

    KeepOnRollin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2010
    Messages:
    11,472
    Likes Received:
    5,638
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    North Idaho
    Not sure who this Bogut type player is. Because I wouldn't take Bogut now. So I say no until a name comes out.
     
  12. Strenuus

    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2013
    Messages:
    48,698
    Likes Received:
    33,744
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What about a guy like Beal?
     
  13. KeepOnRollin

    KeepOnRollin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2010
    Messages:
    11,472
    Likes Received:
    5,638
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    North Idaho
    Yes Beal due to his size but I think game-wise that they are a wash otherwise.

    But they wouldn't do that deal anyways and maybe Olshey even passes. Beal gets hurt a lot, he is even hurt now isn't he? (CJ seems to have bulked up and past his injury issues).
     
  14. BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94

    BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 AWOL

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2013
    Messages:
    21,056
    Likes Received:
    10,366
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Realistically players I'd want in a CJ deal would be: Horford, Mirotic and Parker (Jabari)
     
    trailblazer18 likes this.
  15. trailblazer18

    trailblazer18 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2014
    Messages:
    4,067
    Likes Received:
    4,954
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Iowa
    I think I would do the trade for Beal. Gotta get more 2012 lottery players whenever you have a chance!
     
    Strenuus likes this.
  16. KeepOnRollin

    KeepOnRollin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2010
    Messages:
    11,472
    Likes Received:
    5,638
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    North Idaho
    Due to age I could see Olshey passing on the first one. The last two, ya. probably deals.
     
  17. trailblazer18

    trailblazer18 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2014
    Messages:
    4,067
    Likes Received:
    4,954
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Iowa
    I like all those players as well. But my hope is CJ blossoms into a special player like Dame and isn't another Monta Ellis.
     
  18. Strenuus

    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2013
    Messages:
    48,698
    Likes Received:
    33,744
    Trophy Points:
    113
    He just came back on Saturday with the shoulder... but yeah, that is true.
     
  19. handiman

    handiman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    5,517
    Likes Received:
    3,623
    Trophy Points:
    113
    If they brought back similar value, sure, but I don't think CJ nets us a top pick like Lillard would. Not any time soon, at least.
     
  20. BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94

    BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 AWOL

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2013
    Messages:
    21,056
    Likes Received:
    10,366
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yeah Horford being 29 and having a little history of injuries is troubling. However he and Plumlee would be a great frontcourt.
     

Share This Page