Event 2017 NBA draft thread - April 2017 edition

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  1. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Blazers scoring leader through 11/23: CJ McCollum

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    Jeanne has ridiculous wing-span and a ridiculous agent.....same clown that Batum had during the T-Wolves negotiations.
     
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    What's the forum experts' opinion on Justin Jackson? He looks like a slightly taller AC to me. But he's hella aggressive and can sorta create for himself (at the college level).

    Based on recent history, wings seems to work out more often than not around our pick range.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Blazers scoring leader through 11/23: CJ McCollum

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    I'm a big fan. Love his versatility, his length, and his pedigree. His biggest weakness going into the year was his shooting, and he improved it significantly this season. I'm hoping he drops to us at 15.

    I think Bones pointed out that we're basically looking at one of Jackson, Ferguson, or Anunoby being available at 15 based on current projections; I think you take whichever one of the 3 drops to us at that spot and plan on him becoming our starting SF.
     
  5. Orion Bailey

    Orion Bailey WHINEY LITTLE BITCH!!!!!

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    Beat me too it.

    Yuyuza, I [posted a bunch of clips and stats of his after @PtldPlatypus turned my lightbulb on. Ill try to find it and link it.
     
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    BlazerCaravan Hug a Bigot... to Death

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    He already has the face of a washed up former player ready for the broadcast booth.
     
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    I'm wary of guys that bounce up around tournament time after months of mediocrity. And he seems very ground bound < 30" vert, while being very frail. And it's not like he's a freshman-- he's 22, so his body is more developed than the other wing prospects. I'm still on this idea that we need some physical freaks and while Jackson might be a skilled scorer, I don't see the freakish athleticism we lack on our roster. But he has been popping upward on nearly every mock out there after his tourney performance.
     
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    BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 SKHRAEURPL! Staff Member Moderator

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    Freak athletes are cool but I think with the way we play (not big on transition, throwing lobs, or playing passing lanes defensively) they end up as under utilized 15 minutes per game guys.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Blazers scoring leader through 11/23: CJ McCollum

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    Just want to point out that he didn't come out of nowhere at tournament time. He was the best player in the ACC all year (conference POY), and was climbing many draft boards before the tourney. Draftexpress has had him at 13 since March 11 (selection sunday was 3/12).

    I definitely understand the concerns about his physicality, and if that's a major issue for you, then Anunoby's probably your guy in that range. I, however, am wary of guys who seem to have all the physical attributes but have yet to show the ability to excel outside of their athleticism (a la Thomas Robinson, Noah Vonleh, etc).
     
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    Agreed. He may be a decent bench rotational player, but I don't see him being any more than an AC. There are better prospects on the board at that point in the draft.
     
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    Is Khris Middleton a good comparison for Jackson?
     
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    PtldPlatypus Blazers scoring leader through 11/23: CJ McCollum

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    Hadn't really thought about it, but it seems like they're very similar in terms of physical attributes and style of play (although Jackson shot from the perimeter as a junior than Middleton did. Good call.
     
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    BonesJones Advocate for Rookie Rights Staff Member

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    Yes, he is.
     
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    Middleton was selected 39th. Yet another example why you should not write off draft pick because they aren't in the top 10. If we got three players anywhere near his level, we'd be contenders. Myles Turner was selected close to 15 two years ago in a draft that was less hyped than this years draft. If we got a player anywhere near his quality, it would help us immensely.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Blazers scoring leader through 11/23: CJ McCollum

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    So if we're comparing Jackson to Middleton, is Jarrett Allen the guy we'd compare to Myles Turner? Harry Giles if he can stay healthy? Maybe Thomas Bryant as a poor-man's version?
     
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    BonesJones Advocate for Rookie Rights Staff Member

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    Big SFs who can play defense are always underdrafted.

    2011: K.Leonard (15), J.Butler (30)
    2012: J.Crowder (34), K.Middleton (39)
    2013: Giannis (15)
    2014: R.Hood (23)

    3-And-D players in general get under drafted. W.Matthews, P.George, M.Brogdon, D.Green (both), etc.
     
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    We can find one; I'm confident we can.
     
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    Do any of them have Turner's mid range game though? This is one of the things I like about him the most. He can extend it to the three point line even. I think Allen is a great shot blocker. I only get NCAA players from highlights as they are almost impossible to watch here.
     
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    Fez Von Savage スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    That's exactly what Jeanne needs - an NBA weight program.

    He's probably the most raw project in the draft but his upside is extremely intriguing.

    What I look for in project bigs is two things: standing reach and if they're quick leapers.

    This is what had me on the Whiteside/DeAndre bandwagons when they were racking up DNPs early in their careers. Jeanne has that kind of upside.
     
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    BonesJones Advocate for Rookie Rights Staff Member

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    I think that the talent gap is so minimal between 26 and 40 that we need to trade down.

    Some options are:
    ORL - 33 & 35
    UTA - 30 & 42
    SAC - 34 & 40
    PHI - 37 & 39

    I'd also be in favor of swapping down to get rid of a bad contract.
    Example:
    SAC Gets: 26th pick, Meyers Leonard or Evan Turner
    POR Gets: 34th or 40th pick

    At 34, you'll likely have Jeanne, Motley, and Wilson available. All would be good picks. Wilson would be great. He'll be the steal of the draft.
     
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