Event 2017 NBA draft thread - April 2017 edition

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  1. tlongII

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    Karnowski wont stick in the league. No way. He's decent in college, but nowhere near NBA caliber.
     
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    Why couldn't he stick? My biggest concerns with him has more to do with non basketball stuff (his back, injuries, and conditioning.)

    As for skill, he has enough to stick. Don't have to look much further than our very own arvydas SABONIS. Dude could barely move by the time he was in the NBA, but made up for it with his brain and natural skill.
     
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    He is way too slow and he can't get off the floor. He's not 7-3 like Sabonis either.
     
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    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    Big boy ball...

    Przemek or Haas?

     
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    The league isn't as big as it was back then either. And he's still huge.
     
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    We'll find out soon enough. I will be shocked if he gets drafted.
     
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    Up until very recently Zach Collins was a player who was likely to stay one more year. Out of nowhere, like Jarrett Allen, is expected to test the waters. He's a lotto lock, I don't see him staying at Gonzaga one more year.

    He only played 17 minutes/per but his PER40 numbers were always off the charts.



    As of today - my Blazer draft power rankings:

    1)Zach Collins
    2)Jarrett Allen
    3)John Collins

    The way their stocks are now we'll definitely have to trade up for Zach and Jarrett, John could be there at our own pick.
     
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    If Zach Collins comes out for the draft, which I think he might. We need to go after him. He can play PF in the NBA. Lining him up next to Nurkic would make a formidable front line for years.
     
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    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    I asked this a while back in one of the other threads but had no takers so I'll ask again.

    Anyone wanna take a guess as to whether or not Marcus Keene gets drafted?

    Not a guy you see on mocks, but I think he can play despite his size and wouldn't be surprised if somebody in the league went for the long shot hoping that he can translate his scoring to the next level.
     
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    I agree. He seems to have a good feel for the game. Seems confident and mature for his age.
     
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    I wouldn't be against it but drafting a guy who plays 17 min per game in college seems risky.
     
  12. MickZagger

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    Diehard Zag fans don't think he came out of nowhere. But, yes, I would be surprised to see him stay. At least 2 of those 5 fouls tonight were totally bogus. Maybe 3.
     
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    Why?

    You realize Z-Bo was a 6th man his Freshman year before he came out. Played 19 minutes a game
     
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    yeah it is all about projecting how a player will be in 2-3 years. No doubt it is a gamble on all these freshmen.
     
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    I guess so, and Z-Bo was what like the 20th pick?
     
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    Russell Westbrook if I remember right, never started in college. He was behind Collison and Afflalo.

    The draft is about prognosticating how a guys skillset will carry over to the NBA.
     
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    Worthy of a top-5. Perhaps we should learn something from that situation.
     
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    Well, if Collins can rebound and score at the clip ZBO does/did... sign me up, but I have my doubts.
     
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    If we want Karnowski, we can trade something for a late second rounder as he will be available until 45-50 at least (I actually think he will go undrafted). He would not be a bad third choice here.

    With our picks we will have much better players available.

    Looking at Draft Express they have us taking Zach Collins, Rodions Kurucs and Jawun Evans. We have Kurucs when Giles is still avaialble so I do not agree with that, and take Evans when Adebayo and Jeanne are available, although we do not need three bigs. NBADraft.net have Justin Jackson going 26 and DraftExpress have him 12 so I guess it will be hard to figure out who goes when.

    I want all picks.

    Justin Jackson, Jarrett Allen and Zach Collins would be absolutely tremendous but no idea how we'd make it work as all will go between 10 and 20. We will have #15, #20 and #26 if it stays like it is. At a push we might take Jackson and one of Collins/Allen at #15 and #20 and then have Giles fall to us at #26. Giles is one prospect I am particularly keen on, he was projected to go in top 3 when he was healthy, he can get back to that level.

    One small forward prospect (Jackson, Bridges?), one power forward/center prospect (Collins, Allen etc.) and go for a backcourt rotation player (Ferguson, Evans, Kurucs?) or a rotation big (Giles, Patton, Adebayo, Leaf?) with the third pick. So excited about the draft! I actually think this could be a gamechanger for the organization, and it's great that nearly all of the top picks are backcourt players which we don't need and a lot of teams in the top 10 of draft do - that will make a lot of bigs and small forwards who'd normally be top 10 fall to 10-25 range.
     
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    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    Where is Sim Bhullar?

    Not in the league because height and bball IQ don't mean squat if you aren't talented enough.

    Karnowski got outplayed by Meeks on multiple occasions last night. This was a very Jakob Poetl- Domatas Sabonis moment in which we saw which of the two will be better. I called Poetl a bust after watching Sabonis grossly outplay him and his Utah team last year. I have the same feeling about Karnowski.

    Thankfully I know Neil isn't dumb enough to waste a first round pick on this guy.
     
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