Event 2018 NBA Draft

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  1. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    So why not change to a style of play that uses McCollum and Lillard off the ball more and values ball and player movement? Why do we have to blow up the whole fucking franchise?
     
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    So you name 7 players in the last 20 years... what is that, a 1% chance... and you have faith in Neil to find that guy... and faith in Stotts to give big minutes to allow development to a 2nd rd pick... nice!
     
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    Why is trading CJ blowing up the franchise... he is not Michale Jordan... just get talent at other positions.. don’t commit half the salary cap to the backcourt for two players that do the same thing... whybis that blowing it up
     
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    Funny thing is that Olshey drafted DeAndre Jordan in the 2nd round, which was one of the guys you wanted to trade CJ for a couple hours ago. LMAO
     
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    Those guys are all all-star level players, and some I didn't even mention. That's not evening mentioning good role players that are around the very late 1st to early 2nd that have come out of the draft which would make us noticeably better. Add Kyle Kuzma or Dillon Brooks to this team and we're better.
     
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    How is it going to fix anything? You really think he was the only reason we were last in assists with a bigger margin between us and 29th than between 29th and 15th? You really think it's not a philosophy/set issue, even though Al-Farouq Aminu tries to isolate and go one-on-one against Anthony Davis in the playoffs...? And somehow getting Robert Covington and Dario Saric is going to FIX THAT?

    Golden State has two-back court players that do the same thing. CJ and Dame aren't ISO-Only players. They play very well off the ball, however they're not utilized in that way. The notion that they can't co-exist is so far-fetched and ignorant...
     
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    You just lost all credibility... do you even watch basketball or just look up random advances stats... there is nothing ISO ball about Steph Curry or Klay Thompson... their offense is a thing of beauty because the swing the ball around for the best shot... You don’t even watch games do you
     
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    The only time I can think of a team winning a championship with such short guards was the bad boy pistons. I’m not saying Dame and CJ have no shot at winning, but their gonna need a lot of help.
     
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    The person with the least credibility saying I've lost all credibility is extremely ironic. Do I know basketball? What a great question.

    No shit there isn't ISO ball with them. Is your reading comprehension really that bad?

    I'm saying CJ and Dame have the skill to play that style, and I don't believe they're unwilling too. I think it's a philosophical and style of play issue, without enough sets utilizing those guys off the ball like Curry and Thompson are.

    I don't even watch the games? You're not that stupid, are you?
     
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    We have one short guard relative to his position, and that's C.J. Dame isn't short at all for a PG, he's actually one of the bigger PGs in the league.

    So a short SG... Okay. What does that hurt? Defense. That's about it. We showed we could play near-elite level defense last year. So what's the issue with C.J. being a short SG?
     
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    Oh so they have the skill to and are willing to but decide not to because they want Stotts fired? You make no sense... they will be 27 and 28 to start next season... they aren’t changing shit and you know nothing about basketball... also, Curry might be the best shooter in the history of the league and actually produces in playoffs too, and Klay is 6’7” and plays lock down defense
     
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    Hurts on offense too because it means one of those guys is always guarded by a player who is bigger than them and therefore they have to work harder to get the ball off. Also the passing lanes are different when your 6’8 vs being 6’3.
    At this point though I would like to see a new coach if their gonna stock with the two guards for another year.
     
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    Bro, what is your issue? Come play in my rec league and we'll see how knows how to play when you're caught out there not knowing what the fuck to do. Better yet, come to our 3-on-3 games. Show your face to some of the people you talk down to. You're a hothead who thinks he knows more than everybody while constantly proving that he doesn't.

    You take a portion of my point, and connect it to something unrelated. You're so in your own head that you can't comprehend anything being said to you. Learn how to conversate, for the love of God....

    Our offense has a LACK OF PLAYER MOVEMENT. Guys don't move off the ball. Guys don't screen. Stotts doesn't put the players in situations where they have score/pass options. How does Dame get nearly 7 assists a game if he doesn't pass though? Most of those assists are because he creates them out of nothing. Aminu goes one-v-one when he doesn't have the skill too. Evan Turner's assists have been cut in half since his time in Boston. Shabazz Napier pounds the ball into the floor. Do you really think we have the two most isolation players in the game, and it's because that's they're only skill and that's all they want to do? Are you serious with that shit?
     
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    But Dame and CJ have shown that they can still score at an elite level no matter who is guarding them. How many SGs are 6'8? Most are 6'5 or 6'6... How does it hurt having a 6'4 SG on offense when that SG gets over 20ppg? That makes no sense. Would having Evan Turner at SG be better, since he's 6'7...?

    How are the passing lanes different when you're 6'8 vs. 6'3? Yeah, you can throw it over the top but the greatest passers in the history of the game are usually PGs that are 6'3 and shorter... So how is passing hurt by being that size? That makes no sense either...
     
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    Greatest passers in nba history are Larry Bird, Lebron James, Magic Johnson and Stockton only one of those was the “pg” height. Look I’m not saying they can’t win, but how many teams have won starting 2 6’3 or shorter guards? There may be more but in the “modernish” NBA the pistons are all I can think of. Height and Length is more and more a requirement in today’s nba.
     
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    Steve Nash? Pete Marovich? Chris Paul?

    Size doesn't make a difference. Passing lanes are gaps between defenders... how does a 5 inch difference in height make it harder to pass between defenders?
     
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    How many rings do those guys have?
     
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    Oh and pistol Pete was 6’5
     
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    What the hell does this have to with anything? You have yet to tell me how being shorter makes it harder to pass between defenders....
     
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    I just realized this dude listed Larry Bird as one of the 4 greatest passes in NBA history... lol.
     

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