Exclusive 2019 Trade Deadline Thread

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  1. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    After the bullshit Melo Portland discussion, there was quite a bit of talk about trade deadline buyers and sellers on The Jump.

    Takeaways:
    -New Orleans is most obvious buyer
    -Portland is a buyer. It "feels like" Portland is going to realize that the door is open to get the #2 seed and they'll put the pick in play. TMac again mentions Melo, and Zach says no.
    -ATL/CHI/CLE/NYK/MIA will all be sellers
    -Grizzlies will be a team to watch
     
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    I’ve thought about it and I’m not totally against Love.

    First, yes he has been injured the past couple seasons but I believe once healthy he will be productive for at least 3 of those 4 years on his extension, which means you have an expiring to possibly aquire other assets in year 4 of the deal. He’s not a player who relies on superior athleticism to be productive which makes me confident he will still be posting double doubles into his year 33. I also don’t see him having to play as many minutes as cle has required of him when he was healthy, which could help with health concerns.

    Second, the contract is bad but we have our own bad contracts and if they are really willing to deal him for salary cap relief 2 years sooner with the contracts we will be sending them I think it’s a no brainer. Serious question, which players better than Love are coming to pdx in free agency in 2020 or 2021 or 2022?

    Third, having one all nba player and 3 borderline all stars in our starting lineup makes us the second best team in the West and cracks the window open, especially with uncertainty in GS following this season. Everyone who complains about Neil sitting on his hands or the Blazers being in purgatory couldn’t complain about this move, it’s taking a chance and giving Dame an opportunity to win in his prime.

    With all that said, get Griffin if you can:)
     
  3. Scalma

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    If we put the pick in play without including players, were looking at guys that fit into the Vonleh TPE ($3.5M)

    Now if we add someone like Meyers to that pick we could expand that list to guys like Terrence Ross. No free agent is going to Orlando, so that’s a trade that should interest them. Wed probably also have a chance to re-sign Ross. Throw in one of Baldwin/Stauskas to open a roster spot.

    Second unit:

    Curry
    Ross
    Turner
    Harkless
    Collins

    I actually prefer Ross to the Taurean Prince idea. Ross is the better player and we still accomplish the goal of opening up flexibility in the summer.
     
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    Pray this is true

     
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    If eating bad assets was the way to rebuild your team then we'd be Elvis Presley.
     
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    New Orleans should not be trading their pick (unless it's for a very good player like Beal) but I'm sure they will. They will be around 10-12 worst team and will have a small change at a top 3 pick with those odds, even if they don't get it they can get decent young talent at 10-12 range who will be under their control for the next 4 years at very least.

    They are probably going to trade that pick for someone like Bazemore or Ross though.
     
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  7. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    We've been doing this for years.
     
  8. BonesJones

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    They'll do something like their pick, Hill, and Johnson for Lin and Prince.
     
  9. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    It is so shortsighted for NO to suddenly become a buyer yet again. They haven't drafted/kept their own first round pick since AD/Austin Rivers in the 2012 draft. They got a 24 yr old Buddy Hield with the 6th pick in 2016, but traded him for Boogie after 57 games.

    Prince and Lin won't get them into the playoffs this year.
     
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    Im not saying it's smart.
     
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    Atlanta, Chicago, Cleveland, Orlando, Memphis, and Phoenix are all teams that are rebuilding and will not be players in free agency this summer. They should all be interested in adding contracts in exchange for picks/younger players. You could maybe add a couple more teams to that list as well, teams like the Wizards and the Pistons. So there should be plenty of teams for Portland to line up with. Target would be a bench scorer, ideally someone that can also play with Dame and CJ; either a wing or a four.

    Atlanta: we’ve talked about them plenty. Dedmon/Prince

    Chicago: evidently these idiots don’t want to add salary in exchange for picks, but they obviously should. Parker and maybe Lopez.

    Cleveland: Alec Burks and Rodney Hood. Burks has an $11.5M expiring, while Hood fits into the Vonleh TPE.

    Orlando: Terrence Ross, and to a much lesser extent Jonathon Simmons.

    Memphis: Garrett Temple is an excellent spot up shooter who can defend, and has an $8M expiring. JaMychal Green is another name, and is an expiring as well.

    Phoenix: TJ Warren is the only one I see. Not sure where they stand on Oubre, who has been very good for them, but is also going to get paid this summer. He could make Josh Jackson expendable, but I don’t think that’s a fit for Portland at this time.

    Pretty much what I’m trying to say is if Olshey can’t find a trade this year, he wasn’t looking.
     
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    Ya, esp with AD out 2-4 weeks. Stick a fork in that team. They need to be sellers.
     
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    Windhorst was saying they’re shopping Mirotic around. But I’m guessing they’re looking to get someone better than Meyers Leonard and a pick in return. They could be players for a lot of guys that’d fit in Portland as well and they have the advantage of offering Mirotic’ expiring. For example, Mirotic for Ross?
     
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    I'll take either Niko or Randle for one of Harkless/Leonard and a pick. Fuck, Mirotic would be perfect. It's very likely that AD misses the all star game too.
     
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    Yeah we missed on him last year. I believe Olshey could’ve had him if he wanted to. The bulls had to take on Asik to get a first. Still pisses me off. It was poetic justice that he kicked our ass in the playoffs.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Wasn't there some contract issue with him last year?
     
  17. Scalma

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    No? He had a team option for this season.

    Edit: he might’ve had a no trade clause or something. Doubt that was the issue though. He’s tailor made for Stotts, Portland was better than New Orleans at the time, and is also boys with Nurk.
     
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    Looked it up, ya, he needed the team to pick up his 12.5mil option for this current season before the trade. With our Nurk extension looming, I wonder if Neil balked at that?
     
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    I doubt it since we would’ve had to match salaries anyway. But Olshey mentioned regret over not pulling the trigger at the deadline and I’ve always theorized it was Mirotic.
     
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    He did? I'm curious to read/hear this
     

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