Exclusive 2019 Trade Deadline Thread

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  1. hoopsjock

    hoopsjock Well-Known Member

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    This has been my GM philosophy ever since the salary cap came into play.

    I'll take it a step further. We should've used the TPE to take on one of the numerous bad contracts that were traded with picks last summer. Even good teams can take on bad contracts to add assets.

    For example, if we would've taken on Wilson Chandler with the TPE last summer we would have an extra future 2nd round pick. Then right now we could be using his contract in trades which would be much more appealing to teams as an expiring instead of the guys we have with another year left. Combine Aminu and Chandler and all of a sudden we're close to $20 million in expirings we could use to land a big time player on a bad contract (Griffin, Porter, etc.). Worse case we trade Chandler to Houston for Brandon Knight and a 1st round pick. Then we'd have two 1sts and an extra future 2nd to sweeten other deals with.

    The only issue with that plan is the tax implications and the MLE use but I believe moves like those are the easiest way to give this team a bump considering the unwillingness to trade CJ.
     
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    hoopsjock Well-Known Member

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    He said it in the exit interview.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    I'm gonna sit through this again. Call me a masochist. smh. I wanna hear that intonation.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Ya it's not in there. I don't know where else he could have said it.

    Found it: https://www.nba.com/blazers/video/t...594065740-neil-olshey-combine-int-517-2098858

    "I think probably one of the things we were a little too conservative with this offseason and at the trade deadline was, we were probably far too protective of our draft pick and our trade exceptions and the tools we had to continue to build the roster long term and maybe lost sight of the fact that the first round was going to be more competitive that we expected."

    "I think this offseason we shift our focus to playoff-caliber guys, guys that hit the right benchmarks or the body of work that can really perform come April knowing the rebuild got done quicker than we thought and it's time to start thinking of playoff success over whether or not we can or can't make the playoff while retooling."

    He then got Nik Stauskas and Seth Curry as his playoff seasoned free agent additions (neither of whom had ever played in a playoff game). Along with two 19 year olds.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Would we get bird rights on Mirotic if we traded for him now? Trading a first for just 20 games + playoffs is a massive risk.
     
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    Hater.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    I don't believe a single word coming out of that man's mouth.
     
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    Since we’d have to match salaries it’d be a sneaky way to open up the full MLE for the summer. That to me is more important than a late first. We need proven vets.
     
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    I was actually pretty pro Olshey until this past offseason, and that quote about wanting to add playoff tested vets and the subsequent moves are a big reason why. (He also sold the Crabbe TPE as cap space.) If he doesn’t make a move for those type of players at the deadline, it was a straight up lie. Too bad there isn’t anyone to call him out on it.
     
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    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    Same. Watching anything from this con-man:

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    Inside Pass: Only six sellers so far, but several other teams on the bubble with the NBA trade deadline looming https://theathletic.com/780771/2019...e-bubble-with-the-nba-trade-deadline-looming/
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    The NBA trade deadline is a little over two weeks away, but NBA executives and players league-wide have noticed one dramatic factor in the trade market. Among the 30 teams, there have been just five sellers on the trade market: Four in the Eastern Conference (Atlanta, New York, Cleveland and Chicago) and one in the Western Conference (Phoenix) and possibly a second in Memphis. For everyone else, the remaining 11 teams in the East and 14 teams in the West, the playoffs have been within sight — speaking to the parity across the league.

    “It’s supply-and-demand,” one front-office official told The Athletic. “You have most teams still trying to make the playoffs, and so few sellers.”

    However, this next week to 10 days will dictate the remaining sellers and buyers ahead of the Feb. 7 trade deadline.

    The Washington Wizards and Orlando Magic are still competing for a playoff berth, but both teams are preparing for the deadline with the awareness their moves will be made based upon whether the team is trending upward or down as Feb. 7 approaches, sources said.

    Wizards star guard Bradley Beal is not going anywhere, which Washington has made adamantly clear, league sources told The Athletic. Depending on how the next week to two weeks shape up, the Wizards could look more aggressively toward moving Otto Porter. The Utah Jazz have been an interested suitor for Porter, league sources said. Beal has helped lead the Wizards to seven wins in their past 10 games, carrying a squad that lost All-Star John Wall to season-ending heel surgery before the New Year.

    Similarly, the Charlotte Hornets are competing for a playoff berth, have Kemba Walker as the face of their franchise and are posited to have Walker representing the organization when the city hosts All-Star Weekend. Even last summer, several teams approached the Hornets on Walker, but were informed that he is off the table. Hornets owner Michael Jordan has a desire to re-sign Walker and keep the two-time All-Star in Charlotte, sources said.

    Nevertheless, teams have still tested the Hornets. In recent weeks, the Dallas Mavericks had interest in Walker and inquired on him, but the Hornets stated they were keeping Walker and wanted him to remain a Hornet, league sources told The Athletic.

    Point guard Dennis Smith Jr. and the Mavericks had been working to accommodate a trade for him, but receiving equal value for a talented, former No. 9 overall pick just one year into his four-year rookie-scale contract is nearly impossible. The Mavericks discussed Smith deals with several teams, including Orlando, New York and the L.A. Lakers, league sources said.

    Both sides needed to reunite, however, and Dallas head coach Rick Carlisle apologized to Smith on a phone conversation on Sunday and expressed remorse over the situation, sources said. Fences needed to be mended, and Smith returned to the Mavericks for Tuesday’s home game against the Los Angeles Clippers and the sides will see how the new reuniting period goes.

    The Memphis Grizzlies, on the other hand, have started to position themselves as sellers on the market.

    After meeting with franchise stars Marc Gasol and Mike Conley Jr. last week in Memphis to discuss the future of the team, owner Grizzlies controlling owner Robert Pera informed them that the franchise would accept trade calls on them, league sources said. This has been brewing for weeks, with the Grizzlies losing 23 of their past 30 games since beginning the campaign 12-5. The Grizzlies maintain this will be a due diligence process on both. And yet team officials preached to Grizzlies players on Tuesday that the franchise is committed toward winning and to tune out any trade noise, sources said.

    The Jimmy Butler trade occurred in November, Milwaukee was able to get a difference-making player in George Hill in early December and Trevor Ariza was moved to the Washington Wizards with Kelly Oubre Jr. going to Phoenix in mid-December. We’ve seen the early stages of what will be a ferocious pursuit of Anthony Davis should he inform the New Orleans Pelicans of a mindset that he doesn’t plan to be with the franchise long-term.

    Davis will see a hand specialist with the fear of an avulsion fracture in his left index finger, his agent Rich Paul told The Athletic. If confirmed, Davis will likely miss 2-to-4 weeks. Davis has yet to reach the point this season where he will request a trade, but a full evaluation of his seven seasons in New Orleans likely will come in the offseason.

    So if Davis, Beal and Walker are off the table, who is left? There are expected to be several trades on the periphery, league executives say, but will there be a blockbuster? Talks will pick up over the next couple weeks. Teams have scenarios on the board right now, evaluating possibilities — most of which likely gaining traction in the final week.

    More notes from around the league
    Atlanta Hawks

    The Hawks have engaged with teams on veteran players Kent Bazemore and Dewayne Dedmon, but also have discussed forward Taurean Prince, league sources said. In his third season, Prince is averaging 14.1 points and 4.1 rebounds. Also worth monitoring: guard Tyler Dorsey. Dorsey chose to play for the Hawks’ G League affiliate, Erie, last Wednesday in order to receive more playing time and repetition on the court. Dorsey posted 36 points, 13 rebounds and five assists in 43 minutes in a victory for Erie, using the G League to showcase himself ahead of the trade deadline.

    Chicago Bulls

    The Bulls and Knicks have discussed scenarios to send Jabari Parker to New York, but both sides have wanted to involve a third team to take center Enes Kanter — which has not appeared yet, league sources said. The team also is in no rush to release the contract of Carmelo Anthony.

    Cleveland Cavaliers

    Shooting guard Rodney Hood is garnering interest from several teams, and has a no-trade clause on the one-year, $3.4 million qualifying offer he signed with the Cavaliers before the season. Teams such as New Orleans, Oklahoma City and Milwaukee have looked into wing help. For a Cavaliers team with heavy salaries throughout the roster, Hood has emerged as a targeted piece.

    Memphis Grizzlies

    The Grizzlies have attempted to engage several teams in a deal to move Chandler Parsons — most notably the Atlanta Hawks, league sources said. The sides have yet to build the necessary traction toward a trade. The move would free Parsons from Memphis, which has decided not to play him even though he has been cleared for basketball since Dec. 21. Expect forward JaMychal Green to attract significant interest entering the deadline.

    Oklahoma City Thunder

    The Thunder will explore their options to use their $10.7 million trade exception, including pursuing shooting small/power forwards, sources said.

    Philadelphia 76ers

    The 76ers are scouring the market for a wing shooter and center, league sources said.

    Sacramento Kings

    The Kings’ plan remains: Explore deals to build momentum, but also value picks and promote winning and culture. Kings general manager Vlade Divac and assistant GM Brandon Williams have emphasized maintaining cap flexibility.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Alright I got three trades to re-shape this roster.

    1.Simple deal with the Pellies once they realize they need to start selling.
    Harkless + 2019 protected first to NO for Mirotic.

    2. Three teamer with Dallas and Orlando.
    Wes Matthews to POR
    DSJ + DeAndre + Leonard to ORL
    Vucevic + Ross + Aminu to DAL

    3. Round out the roster
    Caleb + cash to CHI for Melo

    Our rotation would be:
    Dame/ Seth
    CJ/ ET
    Wes/ Layman
    Mirotic/ Melo
    Nurk/ Collins

    We also open up enough room to get the full MLE next year.
     
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    Blazers have? I can only think of the Varejao/Mike Miller trade that yielded a 26 pick, Swanigan (and with tax, that 26 pick might be the most expensive traded pick ever)

    I can't think of another trade like that in the Olshey era, but I may be forgetting one or two

    pretty sure he leads the league in regret

    yes

    remember, Bird Rights are owned by both a team and a player. It gives leverage to both

    well, you identified the problem. That would have raised Portland tax from 10-11M to 46-47M!! Yeah, I know it's hard to believe but that's the math. Add in Chandler's salary and Portland would be paying 49M for a 2nd round pick. Seems kind of steep
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Trade machine indicates that Harkless would fit into OKC's trade exception. If they're looking for a 3/4, and we're looking to shed salary, might that be a way to go?
     
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    We are? Giving OKC Harkless for free without anything in return would piss Damian off.
     
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    I don’t think we are. Or should I say good luck trying to sell that one.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    I did say "if".

    Could also theoretically be part of a Mirotic to Portland deal.

    NOP-->Mirotic-->POR-->Harkless-->OKC.

    No idea what NOP would be looking for in return.
     
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    But the subsequent moves would/could be different too. I've posted hundreds of trade ideas to shed salary. We'd also have one less guaranteed salary removed from our current roster, which I know isn't a lot but it does have to be factored in.

    Bottom line is that in our current situation that would have been one of the few ways to improve our trade assets without having to wait. I'm sure that isn't worth the money to Jody but at the time Paul was still alive.
     
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    I'm not buying that OKC would just take on salary for that TPE they have. Their tax payment would balloon to nearly 50 more mil with just a Harkless addition. They're a repeater. Crazy penalties.
     

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