Exclusive 2019 Trade Deadline Thread

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by hoopsjock, Jan 16, 2019.

  1. BigGameDamian

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    I wish we could get Rudy Gay somehow. Become insanely efficient and is an above-average defender now.
     
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    Besides finding somebody who has that sort of coin? The critical step is to get the league to approve of the buyer. That process is pretty much arbitrary. Steve Balmer was allowed to buy the Clips after being told his bid for the Sonics was unwelcome.
     
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    Writes for The Sporting News. He has been around for quite awhile - but he doesn't court controversy like some writers.
     
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    HOW THE KNICKS CAN LAND ANTHONY DAVIS, KYRIE IRVING, AND KEVIN DURANT WITHOUT KYRIE OR KD TAKING A PAYCUT

    Was just looking at this and realize the Knicks could possibly land all three with some crafty cap maneuvering. The gist of this is that New York hangs onto just enough salary to trade for AD (no more than 125% of his $27M next year and completes a trade for him after signing KD and Kyrie. Lets say the Knicks have 5 players making $22M. Compared to AD ($27M) and 4 roster holds (apx. $3.4M), New York would save $8.4M in free agency by waiting to trade for KD after they sign their guys (since they simply have to match enough salary in order to acquire AD). This exercise is done assuming that Kyrie is eligible for a designated veteran contract. If he's not, that makes things much easier. @hoopsjock @PtldPlatypus - I want you guys to tell me if this checks out or not.

    So lets say the Knicks land the #1 pick (this works with any pick, they'd just have to re-arrange who they'd trade for cap space to make the salary work.

    TRIMMING DOWN THE ROSTER INTO ONE AD TRADE PACKAGE
    - The apx. rookie wage for the #1 pick is $10.5M). The Knicks would sign Zion for $10.5M, then wait 30 days until he's tradeable. They could then:
    - Trade Frank Ntilikina and Dennis Smith for cap space and a two future 1st round picks
    - Trade Lance Thomas to another team for
    - Accept the team options for Damyeon Dotson and Allonzo Trier
    - And then they'd have Zion, Kevin Knox, Allonzo Trier, Damyeon Dotson, and Mitchell Robinson (and picks) to trade to New Orleans.

    THE MATH

    - Essentially, $21.6M is barely enough to match AD's salary. The closer New York is to having that amount of active salary, combined with the most players in that package (to reduce roster holds) is what the goal is.
    - Zion, Knox, Trier, Dotson, and Robinson would equal apx. $21.6M in salary.
    - The Knicks would have $6.4M in dead money (Joakim Noah)
    - And they'd have $5.95M in roster holds (12 - 5 x .85M [Rookie Scale Salary])
    - That equals roughly $34M against the cap.
    - With a projected cap of $109M, that means the Knicks would have $75M available to spend. The MAX contract for both Kryie and AD would be apx. $38.15M
    - Essentially, $21.6M is barely enough to match AD's salary. The closer New York is to having that amount of active salary, combined with the most players in that package (to reduce roster holds) is what the goal is.

    THE SIGNINGS
    - Kevin Durant doesn't required a designated veteran contract because he already has 10 years of experience so he automatically makes 35%. He signs a contract for $37.9M in his first year.
    - $75M - $37.9M = $37.1M available + $0.85M (Elimination of Roster Hold) = $37.95
    - Kyrie then signs a designated veteran contract for 37.9M in his first year.

    THE TRADE
    - A month after New York signs Zion Williamson, they trade him, Kevin Knox, Allonzo Trier, Damyeon Dotson, Mitchell Robinson, and (if needed) future 1sts for Anthony Davis.

    THE RESULT
    - The Knicks have a Big 3 of Kevin Durant, Anthony Davis, and Kyrie Irving, with no other pieces at all. But given their talent and the allure of New York City, good veteran players would likely flock there for cheap contracts.
     
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    Reading that Kyrie wouldn't be eligible for the designated player exception. In that case, then they'd have a much easier time than what I outlined.
     
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    With Kyrie only being eligible to make 30% of the cap, the Knicks could trade Thomas (to clear his $1M guaranteed next year)

    And Keep - Zion, DSJ, Knox, Ntilikina, Robinson and Dotson (while declining Trier's option). Those 6 would equal apx. $27.4M. Noah's dead money added on equals $33.8M. With 6 roster holds, that equates to 38.9 against a $109M cap, meaning they'd have $70.1M available.

    Signing KD for $38.15M (.35 x 109) means they'd have $32.8M left after equating for the roster hold being eliminated.

    Kyrie's max would be $32.7M (.30 x 109), which they could then sign him too.

    Then they could pick any combination of Zion, DSJ, Knox, Ntilikina, Robinson, and Dotson that accounts for enough salary to match Anthony Davis.

    This would work with any other Top 6 Pick other than Zion because it'd still be enough salary to trade for Anthony Davis.
     
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    She may have no interest in owning the team but this is not the Charlotte Hornets or Sacramento Kings. This is a highly respected team and it operates well in the black with a rabid fan base ( many of you need your shots btw) Selling the Blazers may net you 2 billion today but what would it net you in 10 years? So in a financial scenario she may decide to keep it. I do not know anything about Jody Allen or her social life or what her aspirations are but owning a successful sports franchise puts you in an exclusive club and opens a few doors you cant get in to without one. The list of people and corporations that can afford to buy the Blazers is relatively short in the grand scheme of things but trust me they have all called and placed an offer.
    Now you may think we have problems (and we do ) and we are a small market team but I would be willing to bet that we are in the top ten NBA franchises to own right now.
    So I disagree with the lottery team with picks being better then a team knocking on the door and possibly being one player away from a championship contender as a better sell. 1 gives you a possibility of having a maybe championship caliber team and no tax in 5 years and no TV money. The other gives you TV money now, better season ticket sales and better swag sales shoe deals and whatnot.
    So I think NO has been given the green light to do just about anything as long as it advances us through the playoffs if he succeeds and Jody decides to keep the team he could be the GM with Carte Blanche and no interference from the owner as longs we they operate in the black and win
    This is my opinion and what I think is going on behind the scenes
     
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  13. BonesJones

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    ET, Meyers, a 1st, and a 2nd for Kyle Anderson, Garrett Temple, and JaMychal Green
     
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    I can’t believe I’m saying this but based on how Meyers has played this year, is this really that much of an upgrade? Especially considering Anderson is basically just ET but a bit better on a less bad contract.
     
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    Exactly.
     
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    My mistake. I've been referring to Gordon Hayward for a while and didn't see the 'Aaron' part thrown in there. :banghead2:
     
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    Seems I read somewhere? that she has a son thats getting more involved. Also, Im sure Paul left whats is wishes were regarding succession. Its just my guess, but I would think Paul would covered a base for Bert Kolde.
     
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    Davis, Durant, Kyrie, and Zion...Spike Lee would shit himself
     
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    Nah, theyd have to trade Zion. It's a work around based off not having enough cap space to trade for AD and then sign Kyrie and KD. Having salary to barely match while also reducing roster holds.
     
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