Exclusive 2019 Trade Deadline Thread

How about Shamet - a guy getting 20 MPG for a Philly team with higher play-off hopes than Portland? Or if you don't see anybody you actually want, trade it for a future pick. One of the few things Olshey seems to be good at is dumpster diving, so why not use that roster spot for a vet instead of a rook who your coach refuses to play? (actually, that's what he should have done with the Leonard pick - but that's another discussion)

As for his failures with Trent and Swanigan - that just proves either our scouts are bozos or Olshey doesn't listen to them. I say that as someone who *liked* the Trent pick - but I was obviously wrong. The difference is that I am not a paid professional talent scout.

 

Dame himself is quoted saying that we don't have the firepower or talent to compete with three other western teams. Can't just ignore that.

 

It's somewhat telling to me that he mentions OKC. They're not "loadaed" with stars ala GS. They're a big 2 with a very good role playing C. And some decent fitting role players around their big 2.
I'm not trying to manufacture fake controversy between him and CJ, but I know he likely considers himself on Westbrook's level, so it can come across as, with CJ as our #2, we're not good enough, so hopefully chemistry gets us there.

 

We were discussing draft picks, not trade exceptions. I'm not going to argue that Olshey has failed to put the best possible team around Dame, because he probably has.

However you can't cherry pick things Olshey didn't do while not accounting for the fact that some of those things are because of Dame's loyalty. Last year we should've traded Ed or Shabazz to get under the cap instead of Vonleh but Dame wanted Ed to stay. The two years prior Dame openly stated to "keep the team together" and not make moves at the deadline. Dame also has shown support of coach Stotts. His close friend is CJ. If you want to contend that Olshey shouldn't be considering Dame's thoughts in personnel decisions fine but you can't say that someone who actually has been loyal to Dame doesn't deserve loyalty back. Olshey may not deserve to keep his job for some poor moves but that doesn't mean that Dame can't appreciate that he's tried to appease him.

As for the picks, once again I'm not arguing that there weren't better options for those picks. However, we don't yet know what Collins and Simons will become so we can't completely dismiss them as wasted picks yet. I am 100% confident that whatever vet we picked up for trading the 24th pick wouldn't have been enough to make us title contenders though.

 

Not to get too pedantic and nitpick because Dame was probably speaking off the cuff, but Paul George is very clearly the #1 in OKC. I think he has a shot at first team all NBA this year over Kawhi/KD/Lebron. Westbrook has fallen off a cliff this year, but he's still better than our #2 (whether that's CJ or Nurk).

Also interested in when these quotes were taken because we have caught up with OKC in the standings-- I don't think they're better than us.

Maybe it's Melo on his mind. He probably still considers him a "star," and he chose OKC and then HOU over POR.

 

Shamet is a good example, but as you and I both point out it doesn't really matter because in theory Trent can do most of the same things Shamet does and he hasn't sniffed the court yet.

Shamet is exactly what I'm referring to though. If he was on this team and playing those same 20 minutes per game would that really make that much of a difference to close the talent gap? Even if he was helping the team this year, is that slight bump in productivity to help now better than if Simons turns out to be better in 3 years? Say we traded the 24th pick for Kelly Oubre (just trying to think of a realistic one) at the draft. Is that the type of move that would've vaulted us before the season started into GS and Houston range?

 

True enough. The best case is the Plumlee scenario, and you can't count on something like that happening every time!

 

I'm not a fan of Rondae Hollis-Jefferson and I'm glad we traded that pick but there were a lot of fans at the time that would have wanted to keep him instead of trading him for Plumlee.

 

We're charged for everything in this country. Everything is expensive. I'm glad @Scalma posted it because I wanted to read and didn't want to pay.

 

These numbers are subjective.

Why?

Ask yourself this:

At what point in the game are CJ and Seth on the floor at the same time and who are they matched up against?

No need to answer. They certainly aren't matched up against starters.

Neither are Dame and Seth when they share the floor.

So these numbers are dependent on matchups.

Therefore these numbers alone don't tell the whole story.

 

So are we trust me. But I don't want to start a battle of "my country has more taxes". I will never complain about our conditions in Switzerland.

My point is that journalism is key in a democracy and by paying for it we help to keep it alive. But it's a struggle also here. Last year my newspaper got abandonned for a "web first strategy". Why? Not enough revenue. And what happens now? Article are free online and the one that are not (premiums) are spread around. That's maybe why i am a bit annoyed by it.

 

OKC has been very inconsistent, so has GS, Houston, SA. Being 4th in the West out of 15, well, a lot of other teams would like to be in our supposedly-inconsistent shoes.

 

Wow, that means no one was willing to take him on without giving up salary. I'm guessing he'll be waived. I wonder if the Blazers would cut someone to claim him off of waivers or if he would get down to us.

 

I'm confused, the Bulls are actually trying to win this season?

If they were tanking wouldn't they keep Melo?

 

1st rounder to WA.
Gets them out of a LOT of salary and improves their chemistry, even if we throw in Biggie.
#BelieveHarder

 

Wizards could get way more than that if they traded the two separately.

 

#stopbringingmedown
#dreamcrusher

 

I just don't see us being good trade partners with Washington. If they want out of Porter's contract the Kings would be their best play because they could send back expirings, young players, and get them out of the tax. Trading Beal for CJ would be awesome for us but I don't know why they'd do that.