Politics 2020 Field - DNC

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  1. calvin natt

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    Trump going to win so easily. Clinton considering it? Schultz? Cake walk for uncle Don
     
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    Garcetti not running. Probably should have slept with more of his bosses.
     
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    Dems laying some eggs in their cheap suits.
     
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    People who think Trump will win against anybody in the next election forget how much ammo anybody who opposes him has at their disposal for a campaign now...many candidates are considering running as independents anyway..distancing themselves from the two divorce court parties altogether which is my long term goal....fuck those two parties ...you want to drain the swamp, get those old farts out of office period. The next election I predict will not be partisan in nature but personal. It'll be a personality contest and the candidate who can work without partisan pressure will look damned attractive to the voting public. Trump will lose on his horrible record of vetting cabinet and staff members alone. His support is shrinking by the day. The media has effectively torched his camp's rhetoric.....he's retreated to the fake news defense and is surrounded with defense attorneys...he's lied blatantly...he's toast
     
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    Here’s the thing:




    It doesn’t matter. His voters don’t care. Unless he rapes someone on film he’s fine.
     
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    I don't project that...call me an optimist I guess....I think he's lost the next one already..if I gambled I'd put good money on it...Trump is 74 overweight and eats a fast food diet...he's shootin' pool with a rope..sex isn't the culprit that'll bring him down....dishonesty will
     
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    This combination is why I think you’d lose your bet:

    No above average D candidate
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    Schultz taking votes
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    Trump base doesn’t care about things
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    Nothing matters
     
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    I was intrigued with Garcetti, so I'm a bit disappointed. Not that I knew enough about him to say whether or not I'd want to vote for him, just that he looked interesting.

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    His dad was Gil Garcetti, the DA during the OJ murder case
     
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    Schultz probably isn't going to run (my opinion). He just wants attention; when he sees how much of the attention will be negative (almost all of it) he'll lose interest. He's not like Trump - he wants positive attention.

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    I remember Gil, I lived in LA in those days.

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    Eric is called Mayor Yoga Pants by the local political radio guys
     
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    I'm guessing that is not an affectionate nickname?

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    Im into it.
     
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    Sen. Kamala D. Harris (Calif.) might be near the head of the pack.
    After listening to her today, She ought to be the first on shot down if anyone submits what she wants to do to any sort of logic test.

    Over 60% of the people in this country get there health care coverage provided by employers that self insure. That doesn't mean none of them use insurance companies. It means they cover the risk while at the same time they may hire the insurance companies to administrate their health coverage program for the employees.
    It may appear to the employees as if they are covered by Blue Cross but they are not. The overall cost to the employer is probably some where between 50 and 60 percent the cost of providing the same healthcare coverage by purchasing insurance through an Insurance company.

    Now when Harris says, she intends to provide Medicare for all, then she will be giving these major corporations the wish they have had for years, a huge windfall of cost relief!

    I see Conservative commentator going with the whoa is me routine, It will break the nation!!! The cost spouted is like 32 Trillion over 10 years!

    No way in hell will the government be able to spend that much on healthcare for the people during the first 10 year!
    After one year there will not be a hospital still in operation if they get paid the Medicare payment rate for every patient that comes through their door

    A great many doctors do not take new Medicare Patients today because they can not operate their office on a higher percentage of Medicare patients.
    The reimbursement rate is too low, it does not cover cost.

    The simple fact is, doctors and Hospital cost shift the cost of providing care to those that do not pay, and those that under pay (Medicare, Medicaid) to those that do.
    The costs are born by those that have insurance, and the companies that provide Healthcare for their employees.

    Kamala Harris plans to relieve them of this cost, I am sure these corporations will be very supportive of this welcome act.

    Obama drastically reduced the reimbursement rate for Medicare so that the number work to get the bill passed in Congress. This made it real hard on doctors
    to service medicare patients. There is no way in hell they can service every one at this rate. The administrator at my local Hospital tells me that the Medicare
    pay rate is about enough to cover 60% of the Hospital cost per transaction. That is about 1/3 of their traffic now and the non pay is even higher.
    If the other 1/3 goes to the 60% rate, they are out of business in a few short months.
     
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    Uh, the logical solution is to increase payroll taxes so that the employers come out more or less even. Pretty sure without checking that Harris isn't planning a windfall for employers.

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    Good one barf. Now that the economy is cooking, raise what taxes? Payroll taxes? do you mean on each individual?
     
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    What part of 'employer' do you not understand?

    Let me spell it out: The employer would pay what they currently pay for employee's insurance/self-insurance to Medicare instead.

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    Oh! A new huge tax on corporations per employee. She didn't say a word about this New tax.
    Man, that sound like a they really give up some control that way. Today the have some control over costs by selective hiring and other management.
    With the government now in control of cost via the tax, then payroll head count reduction becomes top priority.

    Nothing but Temps in the Mail room! Sorry there are just no way we can have entry level position in this system.
     
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    Tulsi's in rough waters already...

    Tulsi Gabbard's presidential campaign in trouble just days after launch
    By Louis Casiano | Fox News

    U.S. Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, D-Hawaii, greets supporters in Honolulu, on Nov. 6, 2018. Gabbard, 37, announced last week that she would seek the nation's highest office in 2020. (Associated Press)

    U.S. Rep. Tulsi Gabbard’s 2020 presidential campaign is already in trouble, just days after the Hawaii Democrat formally announced her White House bid, according to a report.

    The congresswoman’s campaign manager, Rania Batrice, and consulting firm, Revolution Messaging, are set to depart, Politico reported Tuesday. Gabbard will rely on her sister to fill the void, the report said.

    “Rania Batrice is a longtime adviser and friend and remains so,” Erika Tsuji, a campaign spokeswoman, told the news outlet. Tsuji said Revolution Messaging was hired only for the launch portion of the campaign.

    TULSI GABBARD UNDER FIRE FOR PAST ANTI-GAY REMARKS AMID 2020 BID, SAYS SHE HAS SINCE 'EVOLVED'

    Gabbard's campaign did not immediately respond to a Fox News request for comment Tuesday night.

    Batrice described Gabbard as a close friend, Politico reported, and said "it’s been an honor to work with her over the last few years. I wish her all the best as she mounts her historic campaign.”

    She previously served as deputy campaign manager for U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders' 2016 bid.

    In addition to losing Batrice, Gabbard, 37, is also under fire for a public feud with U.S. Sen. Mazie Hirono, D-Hawaii, over her questioning of a judicial nominee and other Democratic politicians in the Aloha State. She will also have to defend her House seat against state Sen. Kai Kahele, a Democrat, who recently announced his candidacy.

    People familiar with Gabbard’s presidential bid described her to Politico as someone who is indecisive and impulsive. In early January, she announced on CNN that she was running for president, a move that blindsided her staff and suggested a disconnect between her and her team.

    Her formal announcement on Friday left her aides working into the night to get her campaign website and social media accounts up online. The campaign plans to have a formal kickoff in Hawaii on Saturday.

    The Associated Press contributed to this report.
     

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