Well, I was pretty much the biggest Clinton supporter here in 2016 and even I don't think she should run again, so where do you think this support is going to come from? Who do you talk to that tells you that Clinton is their preferred candidate for 2020? barfo
They're also not talking to me and I was also a big Hillary supporter in 2016. Natch, I'd be happy if she won this time but I can assure all nervous Nellies that I see no way that she'll run. The support from the other 64 Million of us is no longer there.
Well, it's certainly true that you'll be able to scream about 'tax increases', while ignoring the corresponding savings from not paying premiums. That will be a disingenuous argument, but it is clearly a powerful one. barfo
I heard on can that one of her campaign people said she's "never say never" at this point. And that she could win the minority vote couple with her supporters she could beat out the big democratic field for the nomination. You don't think she feels entitled to the nomination? I bet she is pissed that these other ladies are in the fight for what she feels is rightfully hers.
Shit, I think I should not only be President, but King. Doesn't mean it is ever going to happen. I think you are paying too much attention to what you imagine her feelings are, and too little to political reality. barfo
Most of those people that are provided health care coverage by self insured employers do not see premiums. They pay them of course but not directly, nor do they pay taxes on the this shielded income. It will be a huge new whack, to lose what they had, replaced by the vastly inferior Medicare coverage and then have to pay the government monthly for it to boot. I can assure you, it will piss off 60% of the population once they get the picture. But wait until they can't find a doctor that will accept more Medicare patience. Ha! The shit will hit the fan!
We shall see how it works out, but my guess is the those who are currently uninsured through work will at least have Medicare while most folks whose companies provide insurance will pay get the Medicare in addition to a now less expensive supplemental insurance. My employer pays about $900/month for me, and that is part of what they decided that need to pay me in order to higher/retain me. Some companies may try and scrub an additive plan but they will lose qualified employers. My company pays tuition reimbursement, up to 5 weeks vacation, ira matching dental and a shitload more. They offer those as incentives to work for them. But, I’m sure not every company is like that. But the economics of employee retention will dictate to most companies to either continue to off something in addition to Medicare or increase pay so we can shop for the suplemtal ourselves.
I listen to Schultz awhile this morning. He will kill most of the Democrats with a logic in democrat clothing. More that likely suck up at least a third of the Democrat vote. Heh heh! More than enough!
I think they (the employers) will do exactly what the new law requires. No longer will they need to consider what benefits are needed to keep you (Further) because the government will have herded you all into the same corral, where Medicare is your coverage with perhaps what ever additional insurance will be legal. You can bet your last dime that if an employer provides addition coverage, the cost will be taxable income to you. Not like it is today. This is always the pattern when government (democrats) get involved, Standardization for all! No better deal to be found! Certainly not by employers whom might pick and choose whom to offer better benefits.
I'd venture to say that's a stretch....they never have at least as far as a blanket statement would suggest. If they did we wouldn't have employers who pay people under the table or off the books. Or hide their profits from tax by using overseas shelters or laundering money...to assume in a country as complex as ours that employers fall in line with any law is in my view...naive
You maybe correct river. But then, I am not speaking of that class of employers, I am thinking of the gang that provides coverage now to 60+% of the population with self insured coverage. They rarely do other than what the government requires once the government sticks it's nose under that particular tent.
That makes little sense - if an employer can gain an advantage by offering something different than other companies, they will do so. To say that there would be no potential advantage to offering supplemental insurance is to say that the government run program will be so good that it cannot be improved upon - an odd position for you to take. barfo
