Politics 2020 Field - DNC

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  1. MarAzul

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    Yes but, can you see your dick when you look down?
     
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    Mark Zuckerberg testified to Congress that Russia made a single $150 ad buy on Facebook, and nothing more.

    Meanwhile Politico revealed way back on January 11, 2017, that the Ukranian government (the one Biden bribed, not the one that voters replaced them with) had assisted the Clinton Campaign in trying to smear the Newly elected Trump as being mentally unfit.
     
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    Nobody would ever pay for something so obviously proven daily on camera and twitter
     
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    True. If you don't spend as much as the entire advertising budget for the country, advertising doesn't work at all.

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    Ok, Warren's out.

     
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    Why not offer up an actual figure?
     
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    Fake News and you didn't even put forth a fake link.
     
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    still missing the point.
     
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    What difference does it make? [/Clinton]

    Your position, as I understand it, is that not a single vote was influenced by Russia. Maybe I'm misstating that, so feel free to correct.

    My position is that there is no way to be sure about whether any votes were influenced.

    I don't see the dollar figure changing either of those positions. Also, I don't know if the actual amount is known for certain. I know it has been revised upwards a couple of times.

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    No point provided.
     
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    Well, your position certainly leaves things open to interpretation.
     
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    oh yes there was. Just because you missed it doesn't mean it didn't exist. :biglaugh:
     
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    Interpret this. If one person spends $100 on facebook ads and gets a million hits and another person spends a million dollars on facebook ads and only gets 100 hits. Which advertising campaign was likely more effective?

    I'll help you out on my previous point regarding how much was spent in 2018 on advertising in the US. If advertising was so ineffective like you seem to claim then why do companies pay to advertise? Now let's change that up, It's not always about the amount of money as it's more about the effectiveness and just like I can't prove how effective it was, but then again you can't prove that it was ineffective and I doubt Russia would continue to put forth that much effort on something so ineffective like you claim. It defies logic.
     
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    Mueller claims the Russians spent nearly $200,000.00 on facebook ads.
    I'm gonna go with Mueller rather than Zuckerberg trying to clear his tracks.
     
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    You're in for a big surprise.
     
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    Do you think the Russians are dumb enough to allow us to accurately calculate how much they spent?
     
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    Biden bribed no one. Biden accurately described a corrupt prosecutor that every Western nation wanted out of office. EVERY
    Trump and his cult bribed the President of Ukraine to dig up dirt on Biden that only he and his cult wanted out of the way. A political rival. Trump doesn't believe the law limits him whatsoever.
     
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    Ex-Ukraine prosecutor said he was told to back off probe of Biden-linked firm, files show

    By Brooke Singman | Fox News

    Ukraine controversy brings focus to Hunter Biden's background

    New questions over Ukraine dealings by former Vice President Joe Biden's son; Mark Meredith reports from Washington.

    The fired prosecutor at the center of the Ukraine controversy said during a private interview with President Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani earlier this year that he was told to back off an investigation involving a natural gas firm that was linked to Joe Biden’s son, according to details of that interview that were handed over to Congress by the State Department’s inspector general Wednesday.

    Fox News obtained a copy of Giuliani’s notes from his January 2019 interview with fired Ukrainian prosecutor Viktor Shokin in which he claimed that his “investigations stopped out of fear of the United States.”

    “Mr. Shokin attempted to continue the investigations but on or around June or July of 2015, the U.S. Ambassador Geoffrey R. Pyatt told him that the investigation has to be handled with white gloves, which according to Mr. Shokin, that implied do nothing,” the notes from the interview stated. The notes also claimed Shokin was told Biden had held up U.S. aid to Ukraine over the investigation.

    RENEWED INTEREST IN JOE BIDEN’S OFFICIAL TRIP TO CHINA IN 2013 WITH SON HUNTER

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    Then-Prosecutor-General of Ukraine Viktor Shokin speaking at a news conference in Kiev, Ukraine, November 2, 2015. (REUTERS/Valentyn Ogirenko, File)

    Shokin was fired in April 2016, and his case was “closed by the current Prosecutor General Yuriy Lutsenko,” according to the notes.

    Biden, who has been seeking to unseat President Trump in 2020, once famously boasted on camera that when he was vice president and spearheading the Obama administration’s Ukraine policy, he successfully pressured Ukraine to fire Shokin who was the top prosecutor at the time. He had been investigating the founder of Burisma Holdings, where Hunter Biden had a lucrative role on the board.

    However, Shokin, at the time, according to the interview, was investigating Mykola Zlochevsky, the former minister of ecology and natural resources of Ukraine — also the founder of Burisma. Hunter Biden was appointed to the board of the firm, which Shokin claimed was an appointment made by Zlochevsky “in order to protect himself.”

    The interview purportedly conducted by Giuliani took place on Jan. 23, 2019 at an office on Park Avenue in New York City. Shokin was interviewed over the phone, and interpreters were used — one in Ukraine and one in New York, according to the notes obtained by Fox News.

    In a statement to Fox News after this report was first published, Giuliani said the details were gathered before Biden announced his presidential run and the allegations were brought to him.

    "I explored them as part of my duty as an attorney to show that the crimes committed, were not by my client, but by Democrats. I was not seeking to investigate Joe Biden. I was not investigating Joe Biden," Giuliani said.

    He also confirmed that he brought the documents to the State Department, saying that he was disappointed they had not been investigated.

    "Maybe they will now," he said.


    The new documents were shared with Fox News by sources familiar with the “urgent” briefing held by State Department Inspector General Steve Linick on Wednesday.

    Linick gave a closed-door briefing on Ukraine to aides from the Senate committees on Intelligence, Foreign Relations, Appropriations and Homeland Security, as well as aides from the House committees on Foreign Affairs, Intelligence, Appropriations and Oversight. The briefing lasted over an hour and took place in a sensitive compartmented information facility (SCIF) on Capitol Hill Wednesday afternoon.

    Linick shared a file with those who attended the briefing, containing multiple folders with the Trump Hotel logo on them. Inside the folders were notes from an interview conducted by Giuliani in January 2019 with Shokin, as well as Lutsenko. Another folder contained news clips, as well as several timelines about investigations related to Burisma.

    A State Department spokesman on Wednesday confirmed to Fox News that the “relevant” materials Linick shared with Congress “were provided by the Department to the Inspector General on May 3, 2019 for his review and for such action as the Inspector General deemed appropriate.”

    Linick told aides in the meeting that he received the package of information in the spring but did not know the sender. Linick sent it to the FBI because it included allegations of improper activities in Ukraine that were outside of his jurisdiction, according to sources familiar with the meeting. Last week, though, Linick was given permission by the FBI to share the files with Congress and said they were relevant to the congressional interviews being conducted, according to sources.

    Meanwhile, the sources also shared pages of the Shokin interview with Fox News which revealed that in February 2016, prior to his firing, there were warrants placed on the accounts of “multiple people in Ukraine.”

    “There were requests for information on Hunter Biden to which nothing was received,” Shokin said, according to the notes. “It is believed that Hunter Biden receives a salary, commission plus one million dollars. There were no documents or information on Hunter Biden, and Mr. Shokin stated he was warned to stop by Ambassador Geoffrey R. Pyatt.”

    The notes add that “President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko told Mr. Shokin not to investigate Burisma as it was not in the interest of Joe and/or Hunter Biden. Mr. Shokin was called into Mr. Poroshenko’s office and told that the investigation into Burisma and the Managing Director where Hunter Biden is on the board, has caused Joe Biden to hold up one billion dollars in U.S. aid to Ukraine.”

    Shokin then told Giuliani, according to the notes, that “in or around April of 2016” Poroshenko “told him he had to be fired as the aid to the Ukraine was being withheld by Joe Biden.”

    Biden reportedly threatened to withhold $1 billion in critical U.S. aid if Shokin was not fired.

    Shokin also claimed, according to the notes, that Ambassador Marie L. Yovanovitch denied him visa travel to the U.S., and claimed it was because “she is close to Mr. Biden.”
     
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    Well, it's Fox News so that might explain the part where Fox did no research showing that the prosecutor was crooked as hell and virtually all of NATO wanted him removed from office. Either that or they're pulling the wool over their incredibly gullible audience. Say, who, other than Trump, wanted the prosecutor to remain in office? Give me a minute to pop some popcorn.
     

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