Incorrect. Portland CAN trade the '22 pick 10 minutes after the draft is done. There are no other restrictions at that point
Would anyone consider a trade where POR: CJ, DJJ, lotto-protected 1st —> Brown, Olynyk, House Jr CLE gets: Sexton, Love, lotto-protected 1st —> CJ, DJJ BOS gets: Brown, Kemba —> Love, Sexton, Gordon HOU gets: Olynyk, House Jr, Gordon —> Kemba, lotto-protected CLE 1st, lotto-protected POR 1st Works in the trade machine. The only team I can see having reservations would be BOS. But I think Love’s trade value would go up playing on a playoff contending team. Any opinions on the trade idea welcome. Blazers lineup: Dame/Powell/Brown/Covington/Nurkic Simons/House Jr/Little/Olynyk/Collins? Haven’t worked out numbers but we would either need to find a vet pg that doesn’t need a lot of playing time OR a backup pg and slide Simons —>2, House—>3, Little—>4, Olynyk—>5 in case Collins is now just out of the Blazer picture completely.
Olynyk's a free agent so he can't be traded. I don't see why Cleveland or Boston would consider that.
I see you don't care about defense. Siakam is a great fit. He's struggled as the #1 guy, he's terrific as a #2. His skillset would mesh extremely well.
there is a lot of shit going on behind the scenes in Boston. I have a very..very good source. I know that’s annoying to you guys but I can’t reveal lol
There may be a lot of shit going on but that doesn't mean they trade Brown for Sexton and take on two bad contracts besides.
Key pieces for the “team” considering basketball is a team sport and we need a close-knit group on the court and in the locker room: Dame = no better leader Kanter = hard working, enthusiastic team mate Melo = hall of famer that is a coach as much as he is an off-the-bench scorer [should be used a bit less in 21-22, but provided he’s ok with this, he’s an important cog in a championship team RoCo = I’m not certain he’s a starter. I like this guy but I believe he should be used in a trade with CJ to bring us a star Nurkic = if we cannot bring in Sabonis or Towns, we must keep Nurkic DJJ = He is poison. Trade him Ant = I see Ant as a starter next to Dame! I believe that Powell will move on. Collins = injury prone. Maybe he’ll become great - probably just hurt. Trade him or let him go So here is what we have, based upon the above: Dame + vet point guard Ant + a vet defender Free Agent + Little Star PF vía Trade of RoCo & CJ + free agent + Melo Nurkic + Kanter + draft picks we have a lot of holes and realistically only CJ / RoCo / Collins and picks as trade bait what free agent(s) will want to come to Portland? looks a bit bleak to me. summation: we will keep everyone we can and sign Powell. Only RoCo and DJJ will be traded. OLSHEY will get one more year and the new coach won’t be Kidd or Billups -
we disagree about several things but you're right on this I believe Dane-Powell-RoCo-Siakam-Nurkic is certainly better than any realistic lineup Portland can field with CJ. That's actually a lineup that offers great defensive potential Siakam had by far his best season when he was a 2nd option, and sometimes 3rd
I think you did a great job of that. Brown > CJ + Roco + DJJ + 1st pick (in your opinion). We could use my eye test on talent as well. Based off my eye test, we don't have a contending roster.
New York is an obvious destination for CJ. They want someone like him because they're desperate for guard help and don't care about spending $. And CJ would probably be an all star in the east, especially in that market. They also have a bunch of cheap young pieces and draft picks, as well as caproom (after the draft) to absorb his contract in a lopsided deal. We can clear his contract for Toppin/picks or if they're feeling generous, RJ Barrett, and then use the trade exception we create to try to fill out the roster for better fits. Unless there's an obvious deal for a guy who makes ~30 mil who plays a forward position, i think the kinda deal I suggested is what will happen with CJ.
I don't think CJ would be an all star in the East but I do think he'd get more votes than he has before. I do think that the Knicks would give up three out of: the 19th pick, 21st pick, Toppin and Quickley for CJ and eat the difference in salaries. I think that would get us close to someone like Siakam... maybe we would have to add in another future pick ourselves to make it work for Toronto. This is all if Toronto correctly no longer sees Siakam as a number one option to build a contender around.
I don't believe CJ would be an all-star in the East, but maybe the Knicks would, and that may be all it would take it may be that a lop-sided trade that clears a lot of salary is the best Portland can do. Getting somebody like Barret would be great, especially if the Knicks included a future pick. I wouldn't even mind using part of the TPE to do a S&T for Rose as part of the deal
If Sacramento is trying to clear salary I would want to try something like this: SAC gets: 1st from NYK (19th) 1st from NYK via DAL (21st) Kevin Knox DJJ NYK gets: CJ POR gets: Hield Barnes Pay out the ass to retain Powell. Hield is the offense off the bench. Sacramento gets two firsts and cap room, and gets out of Hield's contract. Barnes is not useful for a rebuilding team anyways. Not really sure if Sacramento would do this though. And a lot of it really depends on NYKs evaluation of CJ. I'm sure they will try to sign someone first with their cap room. I don't know if they are willing to trade two firsts for CJ.
I just don’t see how that makes us any better. Maybe a little deeper. What we really need is another very solid/borderline star player.
