Game Thread 2023-24 Game #20 - BLAZERS @ WARRIORS - DECEMBER 6, 2023 - WEDNESDAY - 7:00 PM PST - ROOT

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Chris Craig, Dec 1, 2023.

  1. BankTeller

    BankTeller Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2021
    Messages:
    2,690
    Likes Received:
    2,539
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yeah, I would not give the Warriors their pick back for Kuminga. That pick is only worth giving up for Kuminga is this Warriors dynasty was in their prime and you could tell me with 100% certainty that it won’t be a lotto pick. With their age and injury risk, I’m not trading it for Kuminga.

    The absolute worst thing that could happen is we trade a pick that could be as good as 5 this year or as good as 2 next year for one year of Kuminga. Usually, healthy players who don’t see the floor much cost less in a trade, not more. Is Kuminga good enough to push Grant out of Portland? I’m personally not sure, maybe even doubtful.
     
  2. Whyachi

    Whyachi Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2023
    Messages:
    7,479
    Likes Received:
    4,081
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Cronin will never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever trade a draft pick. Unless it's one of those crummy 2nds that are locked with protections.
     
    BankTeller likes this.
  3. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    57,588
    Likes Received:
    56,019
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    NYstateofmind
    What a fun game to see in person. Refs fucked us over but we fought so hard. Shaedon is the real deal.
     
    Eastoff, e_blazer, kjironman1 and 2 others like this.
  4. BankTeller

    BankTeller Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2021
    Messages:
    2,690
    Likes Received:
    2,539
    Trophy Points:
    113
    And I would tell him he’s a smart man.
     
    Whyachi likes this.
  5. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    57,588
    Likes Received:
    56,019
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    NYstateofmind
    I've now watched the Blazers play in Indy, Cleveland, Philly, and San Francisco.

    This was by far the most obnoxiously dumb crowd I've ever sat in as a visiting fan. They all collectively think they don't commit a single foul.

    The guy behind me actually said: "wait, two of their guys fouled out? When did that happen? Refs have been screwing us all game." Idiots.
     
  6. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    57,588
    Likes Received:
    56,019
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    NYstateofmind
    what happened to malcolm?
     
  7. Whyachi

    Whyachi Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2023
    Messages:
    7,479
    Likes Received:
    4,081
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Suuure... the referees made every Warrior not named Curry heave bricks at the rim and throw several stupid passes. Definately bad officiating tonight.
     
    illmatic99 likes this.
  8. Whyachi

    Whyachi Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2023
    Messages:
    7,479
    Likes Received:
    4,081
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Blazers tweeted knee soreness
     
    illmatic99 likes this.
  9. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    57,588
    Likes Received:
    56,019
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    NYstateofmind
    scoot looked.... not good tonight. unequivocally our worst guard.

    Kris Murray otoh, surprisingly useful.
     
  10. Tince

    Tince Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2008
    Messages:
    15,259
    Likes Received:
    14,715
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Late to the party because I had to watch this on DVR.

    Overall, I think you have to be encouraged this was a competitive game despite no Grant, Ayton, and then Brogdon for the second half. Ant was very good considering it was his first game back. Sharpe was solid one again; continues to show he could be a great #2 or #3 option, but still has no interest in being the #1 option (which is fine). The young guys put a lot of pressure on the Warriors, especially Steph. Despite giving Steph a million looks, he still ended up raising his career average against Portland; the guy is just so talented.

    These Warriors games are the ones I want to win the most (considering the draft implications), but I don't feel the least bit bummed with the product on the court.
     
  11. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2008
    Messages:
    31,402
    Likes Received:
    24,364
    Trophy Points:
    113
    My concern with Sharpe is that he doesn't look like he wants to be the #1 option. If he doesn't do that he maxes out at like a Jaylen Brown type player. Really really good, but this team is missing an offensive engine type player. So far not seeing that with Scoot. Ant could be a low level one maybe. Shaedon has the talent IMO but just doesn't seem to want the ball.
     
    Tince likes this.
  12. Tince

    Tince Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2008
    Messages:
    15,259
    Likes Received:
    14,715
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I agree.... I can't say what he wants, but I can say he doesn't appear to come to the ball or attack the rim/pull up with regularity when he does get the ball. Obviously too early to rule Scoot out for his career, but I think your stance of him not being a go-to player down the stretch later in his career, is the safe one.

    If this is going to be a contending team, I don't think the #1 (or probably even the #2) option(s) are on the roster. But we're loaded with #3-#5 options!
     
  13. Strenuus

    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2013
    Messages:
    50,049
    Likes Received:
    35,325
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I don't know, but I'm sure they will meet somewhere in the middle.
     
    twobullz likes this.
  14. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    57,588
    Likes Received:
    56,019
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    NYstateofmind
    i honestly didn't realize Ant took 27 shots. Most if not all came within the offense.

    Feel like the situation was begging for him to take more and we needed it. Can't believe Kerr got away playing his big in drop so much against him, tbh. Ant missed a ton of shots he usually puts down.
     
    RR7 and e_blazer like this.
  15. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2008
    Messages:
    31,402
    Likes Received:
    24,364
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Last possession in the 3rd quarter Scoot is doubled with the clock going down and Shae just casually watches on the weak side. Doesn't even try to come to the ball to get it or at least relieve the pressure.
     
    Tince likes this.
  16. AmirIcon

    AmirIcon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2008
    Messages:
    7,116
    Likes Received:
    6,074
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Writer, Director, Actor
    Strongly disagree. As did the Warriors commentators. The team played better when Scoot managed the ball. It went downhill when Ant tried to takeover.
     
  17. AmirIcon

    AmirIcon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2008
    Messages:
    7,116
    Likes Received:
    6,074
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Writer, Director, Actor
    That stuff is super correctable. It's not very frustrating or concerning.
     
    blazerkor likes this.
  18. AmirIcon

    AmirIcon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2008
    Messages:
    7,116
    Likes Received:
    6,074
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Writer, Director, Actor
    Ant doesn't fit this team. And if he did it would be coming off the bench. He froze the rest of the team out of the offense doing his best MeJ impression and being inefficient. Trade him for a better fit.
     
    blazerkor likes this.
  19. AmirIcon

    AmirIcon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2008
    Messages:
    7,116
    Likes Received:
    6,074
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Writer, Director, Actor
    He has taken games over before but yeah, it's not an every game thing. I also think the veterans have been getting in his way and camping their own shots.
     
    blazerkor and BIG Q like this.
  20. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2008
    Messages:
    31,402
    Likes Received:
    24,364
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It's a pattern of behavior, stop blaming the vets. Not the mention the countless times Chauncey has has talked about Shaedon not wanting the ball or passing up possessions. Of course it's correctable, but I'll believe it when I see it.
     
    Whyachi likes this.

Share This Page