Game Thread 2024-25 GAME #30 BLAZERS VS JAZZ - DEC 26, 2024 - THURS - 7:00 PM - CHARGE - BLAZERVISION

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  1. SharpeScooterShooter

    SharpeScooterShooter SharpeShooter

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    Scoot with the buzzer beater win!!!! Yes!!! Great fight back after that horid start to the second half.
     
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    SharpeScooterShooter SharpeShooter

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    He is prone to foul trouble though. I agree. Keep Ayton a bit longer and let ClingKong adapt a bit more.
     
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    tlongII Legendary Poster

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    Definitely NOT a travel. Your hoops card has been revoked.
     
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    Really like what I am seeing from Shae lately, good stuff
     
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    e_blazer Rip City Fan

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    We may have waited too long.
     
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    Dragging/sliding the foot or not, all that matters is that dope dolphin kick during the shot. Or was it a scissor kick? We need to see more of it in different situations to be sure. Throw that into a couple tip dunks and Scoot will have his signature move. I suppose it has to be a scissor kick then, because dolphin sounds nothing like Scoot.
     
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    Pretty sure that the entire league knows Ant is streaky as hell and this was a very bad night. Given that Scoot’s average plus/minus is -6.3, I’d say that the opposite was true for him last night.
     
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    doesn't look like a travel, at least not one that is ever called in the NBA. According to the letter of the law he may have traveled on his dribble drive out near the FT line, but that's rarely called as well
     
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    yeah, he's fouled a lot, but he had 1 foul last night. There is no 'he's-foul-prone' justification for Ayton getting 34 minutes and a healthy 7th pick getting 14 when the 7th pick has one foul

    PER: Ayton 17.6....Clingan 17.7
    TS%: Ayton .576....Clingan .580
    FT Rate: Ayton .094....Clingan .210
    TotalRebRate: Ayton 18.1%....Clingan 20.1%
    OffRebRate: Ayton 10.2%....Clingan 18.0% (Capela leads the NBA at 16.3%; Clingan 18% rate is much higher)
    Reb/100-possessions: Ayton 16.1....Clingan 18.6
    OffReb/36: Ayton 3.5....Clingan 6.2 (Cingan 3rd in NBA)
    BlockedShotRate: Ayton 2.8%....Clingan 10.0% (only Wemby is higher at 10.8%)
    Blocks/100-possessions: Ayton 1.4....Clingan 5.1 (Clingan again 2nd to Wemby)
    OffRating: Ayton 113....Clingan 115
    DefRating: Ayton 115....Clingan 111
    Winshares/48: Ayton .089....Clingan .112
    BPM: Ayton -1.9....Clingan -1.5


    Min/game: Ayton 30.3....Clingan 16.4

    across the board, in just about every impact stat there is, Clingan is better than Ayton. Clingan is an elite rebounder, especially on the offensive end, and an elite rim protector.
    Looking at those numbers, all the obviously lame excuses like "not in shape" and "foul-prone" can not justify the disparity in minutes between these two C's

    now, it could be suggested that if Clingan was, for example, to average 25 minutes, all those rate numbers above might drop. But we can't know that until it happens, if it even does. But the first time he played over 25 minutes this season he had 17 pts, 12 rebs (6 off), and 8 blocks. The 2nd time, 19 rebs-3blks. He's only played 20 minutes or more 5 times and hasn't hit that threshold in more than a month

    If the Blazers are 'showcasing' Ayton it's a stupid plan that won't work. If they aren't, they are stunting the development of a high upside big man
     
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    He did get a little lucky that Scoot hit the game-winner....because he had taken Shae out with 29 seconds to go. He probably thought he could put him back in after a timeout but he never called one. If they had lost with Sharpe sitting on the bench for the last shot, we would be having a different conversation.

    Scoot played very well last night as did Ayton, but damn Sharpe and Deni both played exceptionally well. Very entertaining game.
     
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    Great move to NOT call a timeout. Don't let the defense get set.
     
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    By the way….. I have 15 camera angles that show his right foot that was supposed to be his pivot foot….. dragged about 2 feet on his initial plant. Definitely traveling but very happy they didn’t call it. Happy for scoot.
     
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    I'd be telling him good job for coaching a competitive game.
     
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    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    OmG yOu HaTe ThE BlaZzZzErsSsSsS
     
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    NBA didn't identify it as a missed call on their L2M report:
    https://official.nba.com/l2m/L2MReport.html?gameId=0022400417
     
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    Or have him play and learn how to play without fouling during a meaningless season? I don’t get why people feel like we have to nurse these guys along so much. Clingan scoot Shaedon camara should all be playing a ton of minutes.
     
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    Cugel The epitome of mediocrity

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    Fwiw no mention of a travel on Jazz forums. Of course they were delighted he made it
     
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    Now imagine them with a coach that develops talent, runs offensive sets and makes in game adjustments.
    It's getting annoying watching the third quarter start and we are running the same 3man weave/pick and roll that we run ALL THE TIME!
    To get the minimum use out of Scoot he needs to be learning how to direct an offense in halfcourt sets. Not whoever gets the rebound turns and goes as fast as possible (although I do see how good Deni is at it). Train Scoot to play like Mike Conley and I think he could be pretty good. I know he's not Mike Conley-esque.
     
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