Game Thread 2025 PRESEASON GAME #1 - BLAZERS @ WARRIORS - WED- OCT 8 2025 - 7:00 PM PST - NBA TV - BV - KUNP

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  1. kjironman1

    kjironman1 Well-Known Member

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    The Chinese kid will be playing G league. Bet on it. He’s way outta his league at this point.
    It’s the only way to get him enough playing time for him to even begin to get a feel for the NBA game.
    At this point I’m hoping it wasn’t a wasted pick.
    He was absolutely atrocious.
    At least he’s a good kid that they say will work hard.
     
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    Butler is more like Pippen. He's had 7 seasons when he averaged 5 assists or more; two seasons over 6 assists, one season over 7. He can effectively run an offense, and has. I don't think Camara has anything like that in his toolbox, and he's already 25
     
  3. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I am responding to what B-Roy said. I saw what Chauncey said about the lineup. I'm saying that they should be treating Grant the other way... he should EARN his way back into the starting lineup. It shouldn't be on Tou and Deni to prove again that they're much better than him, which they are.
     
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    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    That's the thing that bugs me most about how Danny Marang has been going off about Grant. Grant hasn't earned the starting 4 spot based on his play last year, and Deni clearly has passed him on the rankings. I'd even put Tou ahead of him also. And if Shaedon continues to play like he did last night, he'd pass him too.

    There is no way, esp given his play last year, that Grant is guaranteed shit.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    He was SO bad last year. And it seems to me like he's checked out.

    2-11 from the field and 1-5 from three. Shockingly he had 5 rebounds.

    I think we are stuck with him and that's fine, but there's no justification for playing him over Deni and Tou.
     
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    Well maybe the rookie reality check set in in this game.....hopefully the buzz around Yang will calm down and reporters will stop asking every teammate about his value...the kid has plenty to adjust to as it is. He's clearly not up to speed yet.
     
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    e_blazer Rip City Fan

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    I don't think Billups is asking Tou and Deni to prove anything, I think he's just experimenting with lineups to see what combinations of players work well together. If he's starting Grant over either of them on opening night, I'm going to get excited (in a negative way).
     
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    kjironman1 Well-Known Member

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    Nope he isn’t.
    Lots of work he must put in for sure.
     
  9. Wizard Mentor

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    Camara, Deni: In midseason form
    Grant: Sigh.
    Clingan: 7 rebounds in 11 minutes. Not sure why he didn't play more.
    Holiday: A coach's best friend. Stabilizes both offense and defense when he's in there.
    Sharpe: Early signs point to him taking the leap.
    Murray: Shot 4/5. Hope he continues that, because his d is solid, and I want him to stay.
    Reath: 3 highlight plays in 11 minutes, wow. Clearly, is better than end of the bench scrubs.
    Hansen: Refs didn't let him play. Will definitely be a learning season for him. Not worried, at all.
    Wesley: A solid rotation player in this system, period. Love his energy and drive-and-kick game.
    Rupes: sucked ass. After an awesome summer league, looked here like a nonplayer. Missed Layups and FTs.
    2-way players: gave up a 51 point 4th quarter to GS scrubs. It's really hard to process that.
     
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    It tickled my funny bone that Lillard, per ESPN, got a DNP-CD.
     
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    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    He did ask Tou to be 1st team all defense.
     
  12. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    By the time Jimmy Butler was 25, he didn't have that in his toolbox either. He won MIP that year, with a career high of 3.3 apg. Not that I'm expecting Camara to win MIP or anything, but so far Butler has actually been a pretty damn good same-age analog for Toumani's first couple years

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    I was very impressed with our actual rotation players last night. Sharp and Camara look legit. Our rookie looked pretty rough but that's to be expected. Once Scoot is back we legitimately have 7 starters. I think we surprise some people this year if healthy.
     
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    Just check out that shooting percentage of his two games... He's shooting a record percentage from 3.
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    I think they’ll be games like last nights that playing our centers don’t make a lot of sense and we’ll play small ball with Grant at center
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    For a moment I misread that as "Giannis at center". The trade talk has infected my brain
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Bro, you had this kid with one foot into an all star spot just last week and attacked me for questioning that ludicrous opinion. He did exactly what I said he would to you in my reply. You need to check yourself coming in here swinging the way you did. Unrealistic not thought out uneducated takes is the only thing that sucks around here. Just slow your roll and let the kid grow at his pace. We gave up DA and we will really notice it this season. Wait til we play a team that actually has a low post presence.
     
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    we'll see I guess but I just don't think Camara will develop the same level of ball-handling that Butler had/has

    now, it's possible that Camara might develop a similar 'quick-relay' passing game like Batum had. Nic didn't utilize dribbling as a facilitator; he used court vision and quick passes.
     
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    Murray getting his confidence "back" implies he had it at some point.

    It's like saying I'm trying to get my trillion dollars back - as though I once had it.

    Murray shot a career high 3pt % last season of 26%. There's nothing for him to get "back".
     
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    It's amazing the delusional speculation we have of why Grant is still here or has such and such role.

    Used to be that it was because Cronin knows the Lakers will be forced to give up two first round picks for him. Then Grant needs to start to keep his value up.

    Now its Billups playing 4 D chess.

    I wonder what the reason will be next.
     
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