2nd year players should not be getting Ts in the playoffs

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  1. Propagandist

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    Warranted or not, Zach is a moron, and there would have been no tech if he hadn't acted like one.
     
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    Between our continual inability to secure defensive rebounds and that call on Kanter, I permanently lost a good chunk of my sanity last night.
     
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    Then why aren't other players (Draymond Green) giving T's for even worse demonstrations? Consistency needs to be the rule.
     
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    What is the "magic word"?
     
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    You go ahead and focus on consistency and other players. I'll just focus on this individual, isolated incident, independent of others.

    In my opinion, in this instance, Zach's actions were worthy of a T.
     
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    The kid got a T….it's how he's wired....that T didn't win the game in my view...I mentioned in the game thread that Will Barton hitting unexpected back to back 3s to take the lead after we were leaving every shot short at the end....Will Barton gave them the lead and made us pay ...when it counted, Will was money even though he shot like shit most of the series
     
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    I will and you focus on one play as I want consistency and fairness. That has nothing to do with whether Collins "deserved" a T or not. Are you of the mindset that there should be different set of rules for different level of players?
     
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    That's a fair opinion, but how did you react on the national stage when YOU were 20? This is the type of situation that changes players from INexperienced to experienced.
     
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    Spoken like Draymond Green!
     
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    If we lose, their incredible offensive rebounding will be the reason.
     
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    I certainly wouldn't show up the ref, but yes, he is young.
     
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    I'd rather he learn some other way than with his team down 3 in crucial playoff game with 3 mins left.
     
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    If we lose, I will be disappointed but very proud as well as this team has done an outstanding job of competing at a high level. Denver is a very good team as are we and this series has been one of the best in the playoffs for many years that I have witnessed.
     
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    that's one side of the coin. The other side is Portland's woeful defensive rebounding, and like I said earlier in this thread I think Zach getting only 1 rebound in 21 minutes was a much bigger factor than his 1 technical.

    I mean, look at the rebound rates for Portland in that game:

    Enes Kanter 18.6
    Evan Turner
    18.4
    Maurice Harkless
    15.6
    Al-Farouq Aminu
    12.3
    Rodney Hood
    9.3
    CJ McCollum
    7.1
    Seth Curry
    6.1
    Damian Lillard
    4.5
    Zach Collins
    2.6

    in the playoffs, a team just can't survive that kind of deficiency in the backup C
     
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    It's not even the offensive rebounding that's killing me - it's how frequently we get stripped when we DO get the damn rebound. It's insane!
     
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    Well, the Blazers seem to be surviving as they are tied 2-2 with a team that was the second seed and we are missing our leading rebounder and the one we have only has one 100% usable arm. We also out rebounded Denver last night. Coincidentally the 2 games we won we lost the rebounding battle but the 2 games we lost, we won the rebounding battle. Hard to draw much conclusion from that though.
     
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    This is exactly my problem with people who point that the fouls ended up being pretty close so we can't blame officiating, especially when they weren't even watching the game.

    You have to call it both ways.

    I'm fine with what Collins did being a technical. Just a couple plays before that Millsap was way more demonstrative at an official and he didn't get a technical. There were at least 6 other times where Jokic, Craig, Harris, and Millsap did more than what Collins did there and Foster ignored them. There was even a timeout where Jokic had to go half way across the court out of his way and was pointing and yelling at one of the officials and he didn't get anything for that.

    This happened with fouls too. There was a play where Kanter got fouled 3 times in about 4 seconds by Jokic with no call. Denver comes down and they call a touch foul on Kanter when he didn't even make contact with Millsap. I'm fine with the foul call IF it is also called on the other end. There were several foul calls that if Jokic was held to the same standards for fouling he would foul out in less than 5 minutes every game.

    It's either a technical or it's not. It's either a foul or it's not. Refs need to be called out for their blatant inconsistency.
     

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