2nd year players should not be getting Ts in the playoffs

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  1. BlazerWookee

    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    I try not to, but it can be difficult at times.
     
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    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    Ummm... huh?
     
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    Portland also got away with protest demonstrations without a tech, like Kanter's reaction running across the floor to bury his face in the basket stanchion after an offensive foul. So, I agree with you that the calls are inconsistent, but that's always going to be the case judging something as subjective as "too much demonstration." There's no hard-and-fast standards for such a thing. I don't think the officials were biased against Portland or anything. I thought the poor officiating went both directions.
     
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    I feel like if you're going to get T'd up for showing up the ref, you should at least make it worth the effort.

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    The refs will always screw us - to pretend otherwise only leads to more frustration.

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    Being demonstrative is not synonymous with "look at me". I talk to myself sometimes when no one is around, and I'll certainly express anger in such a way. I saw it as an impulsive reaction much to do with Collins' emotional state rather than a call for attention.
     
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    Then you are illogical.
     
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    Situational awareness is key. Everyone knows that every eye in the arena is trained on that area when a player is at the free-throw line. If he wasn't looking to draw all the attention to himself when he "reacted" that way (as an aside, I give very little latitude to people who claim an action was simply a "reaction" or a "reflex", as though they're not responsible for them), then he needed to be aware of the situation and understand that's precisely what was going to happen when he behaved in such a manner in such a circumstance.

    Either way, I don't give him a pass, and believe that the T was warranted.
     
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    Care to elaborate?
     
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    I wouldn't even T a kid for that response... Unless he cursed but you can curse as an NBA player. Players and coaches say "That's bullshit" all the time with no recourse.
     
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    You're also probably a lot less wrapped up in yourself, your ego, and the authority of your position than the average NBA ref is.
     
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    Cardinal rule of calling a technical foul:

    Never take baggage away from the game.

    Meaning:

    Never leave a game saying "I should/shouldn't have given a T."

    I would not T a child for those actions. Seriously.
     
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    I believe you. And I wouldn't fault a ref for not giving a T. I also don't fault the ref for giving the T. I think there's a valid argument to be made either way.
     
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    Yes, it could have gone either way, and maybe that's the point. Collins as a second-year player is in no position to do that, especially in a playoff game. Let Dame or coach bitch; they have latitude. And to me, that T shifted the game. So a dumb, almost rookie, mistake likely cost us the game and maybe the series.
     
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    I did tweet straight to Silver how poorly the playoffs been officiated so far this year. Does he give of shit probably not but I feel better about it.
     
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    Nuggs have done much worse, refs don't care.
     
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